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    On the front lines: Trade war sinks North Dakota soy growers

    https://www.manitobacooperator.ca/daily/on-the-front-lines-trade-war-sinks-north-dakota-soy-growers?module=under-carousel&pgtype=homepage&i=

    "For North Dakota, losing China — the buyer of about 70 per cent of the state’s soybeans — has destroyed a staple source of income. Agriculture is North Dakota’s largest industry, surpassing energy and representing about 25 per cent of its economy.

    “North Dakota has probably taken a bigger hit than anybody else from the trade situation with China,” said Jim Sutter, CEO of the U.S. Soybean Export Council.

    In its second-quarter agricultural credit conditions survey this month, the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis said 74 per cent of respondents in North Dakota reported lower net farm income."

    "Some farmers were relying on the Trump administration’s $28 billion in farm aid payments to compensate them for trade war losses, only to be disappointed with new payment rates for counties in North Dakota.

    The rates are below those for some southern states that rely much less on exports to China. The U.S. Department of Agriculture determined other states had a higher “level of exposure” to tariffs than North Dakota because they also grow other crops, such as cotton and sorghum, that were hit by Chinese tariffs, according to a brief written statement from the USDA in response to questions from Reuters."

    "Vanessa Kummer’s farm at Colfax, N.D., about 50 km south of Fargo, has yet to sell a single soybean from the fall harvest because of the low prices. Normally, the farm would have forward-sold 50 to 75 per cent of the upcoming harvest.

    She fears the U.S.-China soy trade is now “permanently damaged” as China shifts its purchases to Brazil, uses less soy in animal feed and consumes less pork as African swine fever kills of millions of the nation’s pigs.

    “It will take years to get back to any semblance of what we had over in China,” Kummer said, standing in a sparse field of ankle-high soy plants, where two weeks earlier she hosted a delegation of soy importers from Ecuador and Peru.

    Though it is the No. 4 soy state overall, North Dakota is home to two of the top three U.S. soy producing counties in the nation.

    Options for North Dakota farmers are limited. U.S. wheat has been losing export market share for years. Demand for specialty crops such as peas and lentils, which grow well in the northern U.S., has been dampened by retaliatory tariffs imposed by India, a major importer of both products."

    #2
    I posted a few highlights. Read the full article.

    For those of you who think Trump has made America great, you might want to consider what has happened to farmers in North Dakota.

    The article also mentioned India's tariffs on pulse crops has hurt North Dakota farmers as well.

    To summarize you can thank Trump. He is the great disruptor!

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      #3
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      Options for North Dakota farmers are limited. U.S. wheat has been losing export market share for years. Demand for specialty crops such as peas and lentils, which grow well in the northern U.S., has been dampened by retaliatory tariffs imposed by India, a major importer of both products."
      I get it. Trump bad and killed the soybean trade. He killed the lentil, pea and wheat trade too?

      Most US farmers don't seed those crops because they don't have the subsidies corn and soy do.

      US farmers will be taken care of one way or another. This is just a puff piece from the coffee shop. You think farmers are lining up to vote for Warren or Biden?

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        #4
        India has its own domestic reasons for imposing tariffs and it has little to do with politics in Canada or the US.

        What we have now is a wave of protectionism spreading thanks to Trump, China and India among others.

        As I have said before if you are going to blindly support Trump then stop whining about the negative impact on agricultural trade.

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          #5
          With increasing erratic behaviour from Trump, must be a major concern to supporters and those in position to handle and advise him, also to those outside US who have chosen to support him.
          Think odds of him remaining president much longer are decreasing day by day.

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            #6
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            India has its own domestic reasons for imposing tariffs and it has little to do with politics in Canada or the US.

            What we have now is a wave of protectionism spreading thanks to Trump, China and India among others.

            As I have said before if you are going to blindly support Trump then stop whining about the negative impact on agricultural trade.
            So indias domestic reasons are ok for you but the US domestic reasons are trump is bad? Just trying to get to the root of your TDS and totally hypocrisy.

            Trump killed the canola trade too?

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              #7
              Even mini Trump Boris says tariffs should go. No amount of support will help farmers caught in this. He has never cared what happens to people he has bankrupted. Screwed many, building casinos by not paying his bills. Had no sympathy by those robbed by Trump U. His boasts about being the chosen one should tell you all you need to know.

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                #8
                Even if north Dakota farmers get a minimum of 15 bucks an acre ...it's something....it pays the fuel bill...

                It's 20 bucks Canadian. ...

                Riverhurst irrigation district receives 40 bucks an acre every year for the next 5 years. ...

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                  #9
                  Wondering with Trumps tarrifs.
                  How many of them impact say parts comming from China to
                  Canada.
                  You can see your parts coming thru the US to Canada being
                  30% more. But if they flow thru Vancouver
                  In theory everything should cost 30 % less here.
                  Tires parts ,Walmart and princess auto crap.
                  And if it is not cheaper , then someone is making
                  A killing.

                  Or how does it work?
                  Are the tarrifs on everything, even if some flows
                  Thru to another country.

                  Are we subsidizing the US
                  Treasury 15-30% on everything
                  We buy?

                  I know we gave up a lot
                  In the trade deal.
                  I would not think we would
                  Have to match US tarrifs

                  Then again, it might not
                  As bAd as I thought.
                  Because, tarrifs would be based
                  On the transaction price.
                  Your retail JD 120$ sprocket
                  Might land at 20/30$.
                  So maybe 6/9$ more.

                  Not like 40$ if it was on retail price
                  Last edited by sawfly1; Aug 24, 2019, 10:07.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                    Even mini Trump Boris says tariffs should go. No amount of support will help farmers caught in this. He has never cared what happens to people he has bankrupted. Screwed many, building casinos by not paying his bills. Had no sympathy by those robbed by Trump U. His boasts about being the chosen one should tell you all you need to know.
                    Kinda like numbnuts saying he was put on this planet for this job ?????

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by jazz View Post
                      So indias domestic reasons are ok for you but the US domestic reasons are trump is bad? Just trying to get to the root of your TDS and totally hypocrisy.

                      Trump killed the canola trade too?
                      Omg can’t you get it?indirectly yes. We were put in a crazy position with the that Huawei exec not that we handled it good in fact badly but it is all stemming from that dipstick to our dipstick.

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                        #12
                        So chuck and agstar lets explore your ideas. You like china buying our ag products. Guess you are missing that couple dollar premium on canola and 40% lost volume. Got it.

                        So we go back to what it was 3 yrs ago. The ag commodities fly off to china in exchange our tech, military secrets, patents are all give freely to them? Our companies set up shop there and get shaken down and never get access to the chinese market. Their companies set up here and take over (LNG, BC Real Estate). We allow Huewei to embed into our 5G network complete with their facial recognition credit score. We allow some of our GDP to be siphoned off in the name of low quality cheaper products like t shirts and shoes until china steals enough of our tech that we are buying combines from them? We allow their military and empire aspirations to be unchecked.

                        Just to be clear, this is what you want?

                        So if you get $12 for canola and $17 for soybeans, that's worth giving up the rest?

                        And when china gets to the size it wants and stops buying any ag products at all, what will we grow then?

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                          #13
                          This is a sarcastic remark....

                          We will continue to lose money on every bushel but we will make it up on volume.....

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                            #14
                            Just to be clear, this is what you guys are ok with because you miss a few bucks on canola.

                            There was a reason greenland was in the news this week.

                            https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46386867 How Greenland could become China's Arctic base

                            China is flexing its muscles. As the second richest economy in the world, its businessmen and politicians are involved just about everywhere in Asia, Africa and Latin America.
                            Now, though, China is taking a big interest in a very different part of the world: the Arctic.
                            It has started calling itself a "near-Arctic" power, even though Beijing is almost 3,000km (1,800 miles) from the Arctic Circle. It has bought or commissioned several ice-breakers - including nuclear-powered ones - to carve out new routes for its goods through the Arctic ice.
                            And it is eyeing Greenland as a particularly useful way-station on its polar silk road.

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                              #15
                              More likely it will be Putin land.
                              After Denmark rebuffed Trump
                              On the sale .
                              Trump now has a childish excuse to do nothing
                              When Russia in invades Greenland.
                              I think it is all part if the plan

                              That is why Trump wants Putin back in the G8
                              So he can kick him out after the Greenland invasion.
                              Last edited by sawfly1; Aug 24, 2019, 10:21.

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