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    #16
    bucket your information is out of date. Gave $11m to hydro Quebec this am to fight climate change.

    I would say that if Kenny doesn't rip this country apart next year, then we all go buy land in Quebec.

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      #17
      Originally posted by jazz View Post
      bucket your information is out of date. Gave $11m to hydro Quebec this am to fight climate change.

      I would say that if Kenny doesn't rip this country apart next year, then we all go buy land in Quebec.
      It should be part of Hydro Quebec's business plan to service the remote communities and make the ROI over time ....instead the rest of canada pays for it under the disguise of carbon reduction...

      Don't know how much you can reduce carbon on hydro generation ??????


      If the liberals get back in under Trudeau we are screwed as a nation...

      Disclaimer: I have never made a donation to a political party or bought a membership in one....but I would consider supporting a western separatist party with a bulletproof plan to get the hell out of this current regime....Because I don't see anything than pandering to Quebec on any party's platform...

      Maybe Mad Max has more vision for a country than the other guys...

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        #18
        Originally posted by jazz View Post
        bucket your information is out of date. Gave $11m to hydro Quebec this am to fight climate change.

        I would say that if Kenny doesn't rip this country apart next year, then we all go buy land in Quebec.
        The key words are ...gave 11 million to hydro quebec

        Gave it... so they could make money and still be subsidized by the rest of canada....

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          #19
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          bucket your information is out of date. Gave $11m to hydro Quebec this am to fight climate change.

          I would say that if Kenny doesn't rip this country apart next year, then we all go buy land in Quebec.
          The key words are ...gave 11 million to hydro quebec

          Gave it... so they could make money and still be subsidized by the rest of canada....

          Its not a loan ...its a handout...

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            #20
            "I would say that if Kenny doesn't rip this country apart next year, then we all go buy land in Quebec. "

            Kenny isn't going to jackshit regarding separating Alberta, he just talks about it to keep the former Wild Roser's happy. Why wouldn't you buy Condos in Quebec?

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              #21
              Originally posted by bucket View Post
              Here are some facts ..

              ....There is a big difference in the strategy for farmers....Quebec farmer get a handout along with indexed pricing...

              Western Canada farmers get a loan and extension in a market that is affected by the handouts in the states...

              Quebec gets equity....western canada gets debt....

              Sadly the conservatives wouldn't be much different as they are the ones that gutted farm support and never introduced transparency and accountability to the market in Canada....

              Shame you have to lie to make your case.
              Supply Management is a federal program that applies exactly the same in Alberta as it does in Quebec. Same indexed pricing, same handouts.

              You also omitted to mention that the Conservatives made the changes to SM that triggered the handouts - and they stated quite clearly that they were also going to compensate producers affected by the changes they initiated.

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                #22
                Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                Shame you have to lie to make your case.
                Supply Management is a federal program that applies exactly the same in Alberta as it does in Quebec. Same indexed pricing, same handouts.

                You also omitted to mention that the Conservatives made the changes to SM that triggered the handouts - and they stated quite clearly that they were also going to compensate producers affected by the changes they initiated.
                Really? canola has supply management subsidies. tell us more.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                  Shame you have to lie to make your case.
                  Supply Management is a federal program that applies exactly the same in Alberta as it does in Quebec. Same indexed pricing, same handouts.

                  You also omitted to mention that the Conservatives made the changes to SM that triggered the handouts - and they stated quite clearly that they were also going to compensate producers affected by the changes they initiated.
                  Make no mistake if the majority of dairies were in Alberta there would not be this type of support...

                  I did say at the end of my statement the conservatives would be no better....they screwed western canadian farmers pretty bad the last go round...

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by jazz View Post
                    Really? canola has supply management subsidies. tell us more.
                    Demonstrating that low western Canadian IQ you were talking about.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by bucket View Post
                      Make no mistake if the majority of dairies were in Alberta there would not be this type of support...
                      Pure speculation, trying to make your case. The fact remains Supply Management has always been a federal system and is treated as such by the federal government.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                        Pure speculation, trying to make your case. The fact remains Supply Management has always been a federal system and is treated as such by the federal government.
                        Grass come on , this was purely about buying votes . Dairy has a guaranteed income , they really need support ????
                        Grain and cattle producers have zero guarantee.... huge difference.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                          Grass come on , this was purely about buying votes . Dairy has a guaranteed income , they really need support ????
                          Grain and cattle producers have zero guarantee.... huge difference.
                          They had a guaranteed market price for their milk but when Harper compromised that arrangement he admitted he would have to compensate dairy farmers for that. Harper promised that money to dairy farmers so it's rather unfair to say it is Trudeau trying to buy votes with something Harper set in motion.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                            They had a guaranteed market price for their milk but when Harper compromised that arrangement he admitted he would have to compensate dairy farmers for that. Harper promised that money to dairy farmers so it's rather unfair to say it is Trudeau trying to buy votes with something Harper set in motion.
                            While agree with what you said above ....why didn't Trudeau pay it out in the first year of his mandate instead of waiting 60 days before the election...

                            As much as we may cordially disagree ...even you have to admit this was vote buying by Trudeau....

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                              #29
                              You are moving into super troll now grass. You really cant be that obstuse. I mean you apparently think harper caused trudeau to have to send a bunch of free cash to dairies to correct some mistake. You are really going to defend skippy? Guess you dont mind his SNC shenanigan either.

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                                #30
                                grass conveniently forgets that nobody can actually start a fing dairy farm here in the west because Quebec has a stranglehold monopoly on that business.
                                Last edited by jazz; Aug 18, 2019, 19:59.

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