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Jul 8, 2019 | 15:40 1 Quebec joins carbon tax challenge. Must have seen their juicy welfare equalizations were going to get cut off.

Trudeau wont risk going against his base.

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  • Jul 8, 2019 | 16:54 2 Hopefully something positive come out of this. Reply With Quote
    farmaholic's Avatar Jul 8, 2019 | 17:01 3 For fuck's sake.....the Liberals eliminating the Carbon Tax might just be the move that gets the Prime Moron re-elected! Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 8, 2019 | 17:03 4 there was another thread today discussing the abusive marriage that the west has with the ROC. I was going to comment there, but this is so much more suitable.

    Like any abusive partner, they are very manipulative and know when to offer just enough kindness to keep the abused in the relationship. This is exactly that, except it is happening on the political level.

    Just like the parasite and host analogy, no parasite wants to actually kill its host, since it then dies too. Although not all parasites are smart enough to realize the consequences, and we have some prime examples right here on Agriville. Reply With Quote
    Jul 8, 2019 | 17:25 5 This isn’t an april fools joke, is it? Next thing we’ll hear Suzuki is in love with carbon. The absurdity of the new world is unending. Ontario and Kebec against sock boy - Can’t be. Reply With Quote
    Jul 8, 2019 | 18:03 6 Maybe this b/S gig is up finally Reply With Quote
    Jul 8, 2019 | 19:00 7
    Quote Originally Posted by seldomseen View Post
    Hopefully something positive come out of this.
    The church of climate alarmism will have a hard time of admitting that a carbon tax is a farce so sock boy and McKenna will be all in on this issue.

    Hopefully the equalization funded Quebecers wake up and smell the coffee. Reply With Quote
    Jul 8, 2019 | 19:05 8 I must have not heard correctly but I thought them and one maritime province applied for intervener status in the courts in order to be heard that they want the carbon tax??? Or did I hear wrong? Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 8, 2019 | 20:13 9
    Quote Originally Posted by the big wheel View Post
    I must have not heard correctly but I thought them and one maritime province applied for intervener status in the courts in order to be heard that they want the carbon tax??? Or did I hear wrong?
    You heard right. PEI wants carbon tax kept and Quebec wants to make sure it's cap and trade system is not affected by any change either way.

    Had a hard time believing that the frogs would do anything that would benefit the West. Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 8, 2019 | 21:13 10
    Quote Originally Posted by 15444 View Post
    You heard right. PEI wants carbon tax kept and Quebec wants to make sure it's cap and trade system is not affected by any change either way.

    Had a hard time believing that the frogs would do anything that would benefit the West.
    No that's wrong. Higgs is on side, they are just putting all their efforts behind Sasks supreme court challenge. Challenging the court three times is a waste of time. Reply With Quote
    Jul 8, 2019 | 21:21 11
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Challenging the court three times is a waste of time.
    Challenging it once is a waste of time - no way can the provinces over rule the feds on this one. Reply With Quote
    Jul 8, 2019 | 21:35 12
    Quote Originally Posted by grassfarmer View Post
    Challenging it once is a waste of time - no way can the provinces over rule the feds on this one.
    wanna make a wager on that ?
    will be gone within a year
    i will wager some of my livestock against your livestock
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  • Jul 8, 2019 | 21:51 13
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    No that's wrong. Higgs is on side, they are just putting all their efforts behind Sasks supreme court challenge. Challenging the court three times is a waste of time.
    Higgs is not PE Island premier. Quebec and pei wanting intervenor status does not mean they are on side with sask. Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 8, 2019 | 23:18 14
    Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
    wanna make a wager on that ?
    will be gone within a year
    Trudeau cant let one province do cap and trade or their own scheme and force others into carbon tax. That is definitely unconstitutional. You will start to hear some tone down rhetoric now about alternatives and more custom programs for each province blah blah blah. But if Quebec doesn't want something, it doesn't happen. They own skippy like rented mule and that's the only reason they vote for him I think. Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 9, 2019 | 00:32 15
    Quote Originally Posted by grassfarmer View Post
    Challenging it once is a waste of time - no way can the provinces over rule the feds on this one.
    I hope you are right, this issue is so divisive, and so unpopular, not only in the west, but all productive regions, that having the courts ramming it through just adds so much fuel to the separation fire. Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 9, 2019 | 07:38 16
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Quebec joins carbon tax challenge. Must have seen their juicy welfare equalizations were going to get cut off.

    Trudeau wont risk going against his base.

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    Big deal. Quebec will just get its own special deal. Reply With Quote
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  • Jul 9, 2019 | 08:12 17 It appears that Quebec is concerned about retaining provincial jurisdiction over carbon taxes. There is a very simple reason for this, Quebec's cap and trade program works out to roughly $18 per tonne. Under Justin Trudeau's mandated plan the price on carbon must be $30 a tonne in 2020, $40 a tonne in 2021 and $50 in 2022. With Quebec's cap and trade deal being with California there is certainly no guarantee their price on carbon will rise and my guess is Quebec doesn't want it to rise. There is no doubt while Trudeau will shove his tax levels down Alberta's and Saskatchewan he won't do anything in Quebec. I believe he signed an interesting deal in PEI in which PEI lowered their gas tax and then raised it again with a carbon tax with a net gain of 1 cent a liter and no tax on heating fuel. The carbon tax in Canada is a ridiculous mish mash that is applied differently in every province depending on whether your a Liberal friend or not. Reply With Quote
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