What happens to land prices during western separation(or not)?

[grassfarmer]

I'm trying to understand the value in this post. Do you think Kenny would have a realistic opportunity to become president of the US after we join? How would the rules around Presidents having to be born in the US affect an Albertan?

I think it was a joke - fitting for this thread as it'll never happen.

[jazz]

I think it was a joke - fitting for this thread as it'll never happen.

So grass you think that the borders as drawn right now are going to be that way forever? If we had a culture like china or japan maybe but our diversity is strength has turned into division and it will tear us apart. Peoples interests are so divergent in this country there is no middle ground anymore. It will happen one way or another especially in a weak confederation like Canada.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I think it was a joke - fitting for this thread as it'll never happen.

You're experiences are actually really valuable to this thread. Understanding Scotland and Brexit, and having lived in 2 provinces. So please put aside your personal opinion on if separation is going to happen, or if you agree with it, and instead look at the what if scenario. You are invested in the outcome too. The movement is already afoot, and gaining traction, even if it ev entually fizzles out, what effect will it have in the meantime?

[6V53]

I think it was a joke - fitting for this thread as it'll never happen.

Well just in case maybe you should be checking out the real estate agents.

[macdon02]

Im not optimistic we still own land at the point of seperation. It'll get nationalized for the good of the whole. Kind of a "treaty agreement" .... it worked once. It's happening right now in South Africa

[jazz]

Im not optimistic we still own land at the point of seperation. It'll get nationalized for the good of the whole. Kind of a "treaty agreement" .... it worked once. It's happening right now in South Africa

US property rights would make sure that doesn't happen. We have to have an accord with the US.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Well just in case maybe you should be checking out the real estate agents.

I agree, Isn't it just sound business practice to consider, and weigh all potential risks(and benefits) to the business?

In the safety industry, they assign a risk rating to any possible event. Giving each a probability and a consequence. Then multiply them together to get the numerical risk rating. So an event with a low probability but dire consequences (A meteor strikes the barn where all your livestock are kept) would get the same rating as an event with high probability, but low consequences ( a tree falls on a fence between two pastures). You might assign western separation a low probability, but the consequences would be very high, especially being in Manitoba which could go either way. Isn't it prudent to at least consider if preparations are in order, to either take advantage of an opportunity, or limit the losses? No different than planning a contingency plan for a drought, or another BSE type event.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Im not optimistic we still own land at the point of seperation. It'll get nationalized for the good of the whole. Kind of a "treaty agreement" .... it worked once. It's happening right now in South Africa

While I don't doubt that Canada is heading that direction with the reconciliation movement and creeping socialism. But, given the US's attitude to Communism and it's variants throughout history, I don't think they would stand idly by and watch as it unfolds on their doorstep.

And, what is happening in South Africa should scare everyone of us, especially us farmers in sparsely populated areas. Which is yet another reason to get out while the getting is good. I'm afraid the crowd in Ottawa today would be only too happy to enable and justify such actions here.

[tweety]

I'm trying to understand the value in this post. Do you think Kenny would have a realistic opportunity to become president of the US after we join? How would the rules around Presidents having to be born in the US affect an Albertan?

President of the Republic of Alberta. Along with all those manly white christian values, he will Make Alberta Great Again.

[Bowerpower]

President of the Republic of Alberta. Along with all those manly white christian values, he will Make Alberta Great Again.

That made me laugh

[AlbertaFarmer5]

President of the Republic of Alberta. Along with all those manly white christian values, he will Make Alberta Great Again.

So, you didn't read any of the thread and made a comment anyways because you evidently don't like Kenney, who wasn't mentioned whatsoever in the original post? Apparently you either don't own any land, or don't reside in Canada, so this issue doesn't affect you in any way?

[grassfarmer]

You're experiences are actually really valuable to this thread. Understanding Scotland and Brexit, and having lived in 2 provinces......

Yeah, but all you born here Canadians should have a better clue about what's going on in your own country. This is just fantasy league stuff - the impression most of you seem to be under that western Canada remains a white, right-wing farm economy is simply not realistic. You need to view a broader picture than your own postal code. It's a hugely urbanized population and becoming more so every day. MB just came off a long stretch of NDP Government, Alberta just had an NDP term, BC still does and as SF3 likes to remind us SK had decades of NDP. That does not look like the majority of the population in the west have ever been right wing and with immigration it will become less, not more so.

I can see some disillusionment or resentment with Federal Government treatment of western Canada on some issues but that's politics, that's neighbours, that's normal. The idea that there is any kind of political will or desire among the general population for separation is just not there. Where were the calls for separation during the Harper era? Non-existent because this is just a reaction to a Liberal Government unpopular with some in the west. It's not even on the radar of the majority of western Canadians.
When Canada Day rolls around you'll all be celebrating this great country - east and west together.
As we say in Scotland "Better Together".

[blackjack]

Though I would be on your side AB5 I would have to agree with grassfarmer. Just take a look at Nenshi in Calgary and Iverson in Edmonton can’t get much more socialist than that.

[macdon02]

Do trends ever change? How does a person recognize the turn until it's right in your face? It might be easier to spot if you look at the long term popular vote for the "remain" or left? Over the "western seperation" faction. It's like a market, a failure to set a new high in any given year, opens the possibility of a new low. Taking out a low on a yearly level means you are in for a minimum 3 year "reaction". Sooo did the the last federal election produce a new high in voter support? If not, then the bottom end is opened up. If so then i would say there's full support for the federal govt as is and no fear of a decline.

[sumdumguy]

The last federal election was won on the legalization of marijuana, plain and simple. Noe if Scheer has the brains to leave it alone, he’ll have a chance of forming a majority right government. If not- he’s sunk!