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May 18, 2019 | 14:10 31
Quote Originally Posted by fjlip View Post
This TRUE, how is this a BAD world ending catastrophe?
https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...greening-earth
It isnt
But the crooked sons a bitches cant make any money sayin all is well Reply With Quote
May 19, 2019 | 08:26 32 https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/carbon-dioxide-fertilization-greening-earth
"The beneficial impacts of carbon dioxide on plants may also be limited, said co-author Dr. Philippe Ciais, associate director of the Laboratory of Climate and Environmental Sciences, Gif-suv-Yvette, France. “Studies have shown that plants acclimatize, or adjust, to rising carbon dioxide concentration and the fertilization effect diminishes over time.” Reply With Quote
May 19, 2019 | 08:44 33 The following link provides a list of the current impacts from climate change. Scientists have been predicting these impacts for decades and are collecting data that shows they are happening now.

https://www.ucsusa.org/our-work/global-warming/science-and-impacts/global-warming-impacts

Yes it has been a cool spring in some areas.

As we have discussed before, a faster warming arctic and decreased temperature differentials has affected the jet stream and scientists are showing that this is impacting weather patterns which can lead to blocking patterns which can create long term heat waves and cold events.

Read about it here:
https://www.ucsusa.org/global-warming/science-and-impacts/science/cold-snow-climate-change.html Reply With Quote
fjlip's Avatar May 19, 2019 | 18:55 34 Atmospheric temperature measurements show an average warming of 0.85 degrees Celsius (1.53 degrees Fahrenheit) from 1880 to 2012, according to the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report (AR5). Globally-averaged temperatures in 2016 were 1.78 degrees Fahrenheit (0.99 degrees Celsius) warmer than the mid-20th century mean. According to researchers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), the rate of warming during the first 15 years of the twenty-first century has been at least as great as the last half of the twentieth century. 2016 was the warmest year on record globally, with 16 of the 17 warmest years on record occurring since 2001.

Federal agencies, universities, and research centers around the world have all concluded that Earth is warming. That is based in hard data, such as temperature measurements on land and water around the world over the course of decades.

There no way most of us would EVER believe a WORLD temp accurately measured to a hundredth of a degree! With NO errors, more accurate measuring compared to DECADES ago? Get serious, it's all BULLSHIT made up, estimates, false data! A thinking reasoning person will never accept their numbers. Reply With Quote
May 20, 2019 | 07:11 35 Scientists use multiple sources of data including satellites. There are four major data sets.

https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/world-of-change/DecadalTemp

The line plot below shows yearly temperature anomalies from 1880 to 2014 as recorded by NASA, NOAA, the Japan Meteorological Agency, and the Met Office Hadley Centre (United Kingdom). Though there are minor variations from year to year, all four records show peaks and valleys in sync with each other. All show rapid warming in the past few decades, and all show the last decade as the warmest.

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The heat trapping qualities of CO2 are well understood. There may be be small differences in the data sets but the trends are clear, rising global temperatures.

Sea ice decline and glacier decline are the obvious signs of rising temperatures. If you go to the Columbia ice fields in BC it is very obvious that the glaciers are shrinking.

Are you in denial about the shrinking glaciers as well?

Your opinion on the science of climate change is irrelevant. What is relevant is scientific evidence. No one has ever presented published credible scientific evidence from a climate scientist or their organizations backing up your claim this is all made up. You might as well be a member of the flat earth society because that is how much credibility you have.
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May 20, 2019 | 07:52 36 Just saw this posted by a person working up north...typical example of the CORRUPT WORTHLESS data being used...

The CBC JUST PUT OUT A LEAKED REPORT SAYING THE NORTH IS WARMING AT TEMPERTURES 2.5 TIMES GREATER THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD.... THIS IS WHAT I PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS IN THE ARCTIC...The air quality monitoring stations that were installed after 2000 are a point of faulty data collection. The person who installed them (i helped them find locations for the ones in Inuvik and Yellowknife) were placed in locations to to get 'hits' ... when I asked the person in charge why he wanted them in locations where it would obvious give high readings he told me they want 'hits' so they can get more funding. I thought that was bad science so I would only approve a site that was average air quality for the town of Inuvik by a soccer pitch and no buildings or traffic near it... since they are going to use that single point to represent the surrounding 500 km I felt that was best... the person complained to the SAO and Mayor ... but I held firm on my assertion that the location away from direct sources of pollution was a better location to collect a representative sample. Since I moved away they moved the air quality station next to the boiler end on one of the larger buildings in Inuvik (Midnight Sun Rec Center) obviously to get 'hits' ... the air quality monitoring station in Yellowknife (see pictures) is next to one of the larger sewage lift stations (think pig barn) in the city... I would get calls a couple times a year from environment Canada asking about a high numbers...LOL! so the data from any of these sources are suspect... not because I don't believe data... quite the opposite ... I collect and analyze data professionally... there are serious problems when the data is collected to get 'hits'... the report 'leaked' by CBC has been fixed with 20 years of manipulated data... we are being miss-lead.
If this is happening on Canadas Arctic... where else has the data collected been placed so the monitoring system will get 'hits'? Reply With Quote
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  • May 20, 2019 | 07:56 37 https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/feb/01/leaked-emails-climate-jones-chinese Reply With Quote
    May 20, 2019 | 08:29 38 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJwayalLpYY Reply With Quote
    May 20, 2019 | 08:33 39 https://www.city-journal.org/global-warming Reply With Quote
    May 20, 2019 | 08:35 40 https://e360.yale.edu/features/freem..._establishment Reply With Quote
    May 20, 2019 | 09:09 41
    Quote Originally Posted by Radical View Post
    Just saw this posted by a person working up north...typical example of the CORRUPT WORTHLESS data being used...

    The CBC JUST PUT OUT A LEAKED REPORT SAYING THE NORTH IS WARMING AT TEMPERTURES 2.5 TIMES GREATER THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD.... THIS IS WHAT I PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS IN THE ARCTIC...The air quality monitoring stations that were installed after 2000 are a point of faulty data collection. The person who installed them (i helped them find locations for the ones in Inuvik and Yellowknife) were placed in locations to to get 'hits' ... when I asked the person in charge why he wanted them in locations where it would obvious give high readings he told me they want 'hits' so they can get more funding. I thought that was bad science so I would only approve a site that was average air quality for the town of Inuvik by a soccer pitch and no buildings or traffic near it... since they are going to use that single point to represent the surrounding 500 km I felt that was best... the person complained to the SAO and Mayor ... but I held firm on my assertion that the location away from direct sources of pollution was a better location to collect a representative sample. Since I moved away they moved the air quality station next to the boiler end on one of the larger buildings in Inuvik (Midnight Sun Rec Center) obviously to get 'hits' ... the air quality monitoring station in Yellowknife (see pictures) is next to one of the larger sewage lift stations (think pig barn) in the city... I would get calls a couple times a year from environment Canada asking about a high numbers...LOL! so the data from any of these sources are suspect... not because I don't believe data... quite the opposite ... I collect and analyze data professionally... there are serious problems when the data is collected to get 'hits'... the report 'leaked' by CBC has been fixed with 20 years of manipulated data... we are being miss-lead.
    If this is happening on Canadas Arctic... where else has the data collected been placed so the monitoring system will get 'hits'?

    What do air quality monitoring stations have to do with climate change temperature data? Very little.
    Air quality monitors are often put close to sources of pollution like industrial sources

    This is your evidence that all climate change data is faulty? Give up! Another flat earth theorist grasping at straws. And next, are you are going to tell me the satellites used to collect atmospheric temperature data are too close to the sun! Reply With Quote
    May 20, 2019 | 09:20 42
    Quote Originally Posted by Radical View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/feb/01/leaked-emails-climate-jones-chinese
    Here are the rebuttals to this old story:
    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/02/the-guardian-disappoints/
    https://skepticalscience.com/Climategate-CRU-emails-hacked.htm

    Again there are thousands of scientist working on climate science and the flat earth society bring up an old story that show alleged problems with some data and suddenly all the data is suspect? A stretch, falsehood an and outright lie. Again where is the published climate science to backup your claims?

    It somehow never appears on this site after numerous requests. Instead we get insults, opinions, political rhetoric and denials! LOL
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    May 20, 2019 | 09:40 43 Chuck, shrinking glaciers are definitely proof of global warming , But can you remind us again what year they started shrinking please. You have had quite a lot of time to research that one should have an answer by now. And more importantly, What is the correlation between that and CO2 emissions
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    May 20, 2019 | 10:14 44
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    Chuck, shrinking glaciers are definitely proof of global warming , But can you remind us again what year they started shrinking please. You have had quite a lot of time to research that one should have an answer by now. And more importantly, What is the correlation between that and CO2 emissions
    Yup , about 15,000 years ago lol Reply With Quote
    fjlip's Avatar May 20, 2019 | 10:45 45 So CC we should hope, wish, pay taxes till the GLACIERS/ICEAGE returns because....why /how would that benefit the planet, humanity? Who the hell says the climate is /was EXACTLY the only climate earth ever should have? Aw come on think!
    All the possible ERRORS in measurement of temp or CO2 world wide to two decimal places make any and all graphs, charts , scientist publications, government SCARE tactics EXTREMELY suspect.

    And none of the doomsday predictions have come to pass, in fact earth is greener, man has never had such long life expectations, better education, or more food to eat. (Surpluses every year) Wow so terrible isn't it? Reply With Quote
    May 20, 2019 | 13:06 46 Now you agree the earth is warming? Hmmmm this is the site where frequent posts by the flat earthers mention a cold spell and then they say there is no warming! Better yet some claim we are headed into a cooling period and probably another ice age! Which is it warming or cooling?
    Make up your mind! Lol
    Even grade sixers have figured out that you can have natural climate change cycles occurring and that human caused climate change is accelerating and intensifying the current warming. Maybe ask your kids or grand kids to explain it to you!

    I still don’t expect any of you flat earthers to change your minds. But it’s fun watching you try to spin incoherent lame arguments. Reply With Quote
    May 20, 2019 | 13:22 47
    Quote Originally Posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Now you agree the earth is warming? Hmmmm this is the site where frequent posts by the flat earthers mention a cold spell and then they say there is no warming! Better yet some claim we are headed into a cooling period and probably another ice age! Which is it warming or cooling?
    Make up your mind! Lol
    Even grade sixers have figured out that you can have natural climate change cycles occurring and that human caused climate change is accelerating and intensifying the current warming. Maybe ask your kids or grand kids to explain it to you!

    I still don’t expect any of you flat earthers to change your minds. But it’s fun watching you try to spin incoherent lame arguments.
    Holy shit , talk about the pot calling the kettle black ? Fmg
    Climate is changing , always has always will
    I will try to explain it to you since you are having such a hard time understanding
    You see they found a crocodile fossil 5 miles from here
    Now this is not croc country now so obviously the climate musta changed
    There are many examples of this
    Do you ever read anything ?
    Do you listen to any documentaries ???
    Again EVERYONE agrees that the climate is changing , otherwise canada would be covered in ice ??? It will never STOP changing
    Most of us are not dense enough or arrogant enough to think we can change it
    Oh and it froze here again last night
    That is 29 nights out of the last 30 nights
    That aint f$&kin normal no matter how you spin it
    I know, i know , its global cooling cause by a solar mininum
    Do you have any idea what that is
    Google it Reply With Quote
    May 20, 2019 | 14:13 48 Can the moderator cut these TROLLs off from this forum, they have totally wrecked Agriville. I hardly stop on this site any more because of these idiots. They aren’t even farmers just a few organic earth muffins living in their parents basements.
    Chuck chuck
    Austrandia
    And a few others
    Cut them off already!! Reply With Quote
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  • May 20, 2019 | 15:16 49 Well chuck grade 5 kids know that carbon is an essential building block in all life forms . Reply With Quote
    fjlip's Avatar May 20, 2019 | 16:10 50
    Quote Originally Posted by BreadWinner View Post
    Can the moderator cut these TROLLs off from this forum, they have totally wrecked Agriville. I hardly stop on this site any more because of these idiots. They aren’t even farmers just a few organic earth muffins living in their parents basements.
    Chuck chuck
    Austrandia
    And a few others
    Cut them off already!!
    Agree, all Climate Barbie Clones, dumb as shit, thankfully those types say reproducing humans are an EVIL CURSE of the Earth....a generation and they will all DIE OUT. A farmer knows the truth, has too ADAPT, we are right into Climate every day of our careers. Reply With Quote

  • May 20, 2019 | 17:35 51 if the earth wasnt warming there would be three miles ice ice on top of my farm in the middle of what was lake aggassiz. Reply With Quote
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  • May 20, 2019 | 18:40 52 Humans are causing climate to change and it poses numerous serious risks. The more carbon we emit, the higher the carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere will be and the larger the changes in climate we'll face. Based on our current path, a child who is born today would, at age 30, breath air with roughly twice as much carbon dioxide as her great, great grandparents. And yet, we do not know how much carbon we can emit safely and we cannot know in advance when human-caused climate changes will lead to catastrophic societal consequences. We do know that we are seeing some of these consequences today, including increases in global temperatures, melting ice caps, and rising global sea levels.



    Here is the composition of air. You’ll find the CO2 amount just staggering! Reply With Quote
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  • May 21, 2019 | 06:49 53
    Quote Originally Posted by BreadWinner View Post
    Can the moderator cut these TROLLs off from this forum, they have totally wrecked Agriville. I hardly stop on this site any more because of these idiots. They aren’t even farmers just a few organic earth muffins living in their parents basements.
    Chuck chuck
    Austrandia
    And a few others
    Cut them off already!!
    If you can't cope with differing opinions stay off the site. Try Twitter or the Combine Forum where everyone agrees! Reply With Quote
    May 21, 2019 | 06:57 54
    Quote Originally Posted by BreadWinner View Post
    Can the moderator cut these TROLLs off from this forum, they have totally wrecked Agriville. I hardly stop on this site any more because of these idiots. They aren’t even farmers just a few organic earth muffins living in their parents basements.
    Chuck chuck
    Austrandia
    And a few others
    Cut them off already!!

    Agree Breadwinner, these idiots deserve their own forum, on another planet. Reply With Quote