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    BC carbon Tax ...

    What the media and political talking heads say ..... “it’s a shining example”
    What real people are saying ....


    There seems to be a disconnect as to what the real story is ...... imagine that lol

    #2
    News flash,

    the canadian government is initiating a ban on all beer and carbonated soft drinks to eliminate the release of carbon dioxide!
    Last edited by farmaholic; Apr 6, 2019, 08:28.

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      #3
      About F*cking time!

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        #4
        Ya, but, they can always just install solar panels on every roof and not need any fossil fuel powered energy, after all, where most of BC's population lives, the sun has been known to shine for up to 3 days total some winters, it's not like they go months at a time without seeing the sun. But, they could always install them further inland and higher elevations where the sun does break through sometimes, Whistler (for example) only receives 458 inches of snow per year, should be no problem keeping those panels cleaned off and running at full capacity all winter.

        Or they could just build more hydro dams, considering their topography/elevation and abundant precipitation, BC is perfectly suited to hydro, oh, except they are violently opposed to any new hydro dams, it was even the key election issue for the parties who decided to join forces last time.

        I think this lady is just a whiner, she wants lights, AND heat, what does she think this is, 2019, in an energy rich first world nation or something?
        Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Apr 5, 2019, 23:20.

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          #5
          Expensive cost of living = mission accomplished?

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            #6
            So a $1.60+/liter is too much? Who would have thought? First World problems run-a-muck when common sense and reality part ways.

            Even Premiere John Horgan has said he is considering stepping in!

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              #7
              Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
              So a $1.60+/liter is too much? Who would have thought? First World problems run-a-muck when common sense and reality part ways.

              Even Premiere John Horgan has said he is considering stepping in!
              Perhaps someone should point out how expensive gas would become without pipelines or tankers, since that seems to be their goal.

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                #8
                Gas at the pumps here has risen from a $1 to $1.269 a litre in less than 2 months. The carbon tax was responsible for 4c of that rise yet that small amount is going to break us all and ruin the economy and life as we know it? Imagine what oil company profiteering and collusion are going to do then.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                  Gas at the pumps here has risen from a $1 to $1.269 a litre in less than 2 months. The carbon tax was responsible for 4c of that rise yet that small amount is going to break us all and ruin the economy and life as we know it? Imagine what oil company profiteering and collusion are going to do then.
                  Every service company involve in oil also has to charge carbon tax, we are at the end of the line so it’s passed on to us. If you thought gas was only going to increase 4c your dreaming. Just wait until we get the seed tax only we won’t be able to pass that on just pay as usual.
                  Last edited by jimmy; Apr 6, 2019, 07:12.

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                    #10
                    So many heads ....so few brains....

                    The daughters of the vote walked out of Scheer's speech but the daughter they asked why.....didnt know why they walked out...

                    Thats not the women I want running the country......

                    Its the same with carbon, glyphosate, weather aka climate change etc etc.

                    No one correlates facts...

                    Here is a fact ...a few years ago they said that the forest fires saved our crops....so the next time we are in trouble with a heat wave in July and August they should start those large fires and let them burn????
                    Last edited by bucket; Apr 6, 2019, 07:26.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                      Gas at the pumps here has risen from a $1 to $1.269 a litre in less than 2 months. The carbon tax was responsible for 4c of that rise yet that small amount is going to break us all and ruin the economy and life as we know it? Imagine what oil company profiteering and collusion are going to do then.
                      We know you don’t take 99% of farmers seriously who are opposed to a carbon tax. The Leap Manifesto would ruin us which as you well know the NDP and NFU do endorse.

                      The irony in BC is they implemented a carbon tax to discourage people buying essential items like fuel, natural gas and propane.
                      Now that their cost of living is too high they are considering “helping out” consumers with these high costs they created. 😂

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                        #12
                        Opinion
                        Don’t believe a carbon tax can effect huge change? Just ask British Columbia
                        Jill Tipping and Maximilian Kniewasser
                        Contributed to The Globe and Mail
                        Published 21 hours ago
                        Updated April 5, 2019

                        Jill Tipping is president and CEO of the BC Tech Association. Maximilian Kniewasser is director of the B.C. clean economy program at the Pembina Institute.

                        With the federal government’s backstop price on carbon pollution taking effect this week in Ontario, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and New Brunswick, opponents of this vital climate solution have ratcheted up the bombast. However, British Columbia’s experience with its carbon tax provides an effective counterpoint to many of the myths and misconceptions in circulation.

                        B.C. strengthened its carbon tax on April 1, raising the rate by $5 per tonne to $40 per tonne. When B.C. first introduced its carbon tax 11 years ago, it was the first economy-wide price on carbon pollution in North America. Among explicit carbon prices, B.C.’s is still tops on the continent.

                        While some would have us believe that putting a price on pollution hurts the economy and doesn’t reduce climate-destabilizing carbon emissions, B.C.’s experience clearly shows this rhetoric doesn’t stand up to the facts. We now have more than a decade of data available. Since introducing pollution pricing in 2008, per capita emissions in B.C. are down by 14 per cent, while the economy has grown by 26 per cent.

                        How has B.C.’s economy fared during the past decade? In short, excellent. Among Canadian provinces, B.C. has registered the fastest rate of economic growth since 2008. B.C.’s outperformance is forecast to continue – even accelerate – through 2019 and 2020, according to RBC Economic Research. Canada’s westernmost province also boasts the lowest unemployment rate, the lowest personal-tax rate for incomes under $125,000 and one of the lowest corporate-tax rates in the country. Indeed, B.C. is even being described as Canada’s new economic powerhouse.

                        Of course, we can’t confuse correlation and causation. But B.C.’s recent history and forecast of strong economic performance suggests that pricing pollution is more likely to help, not hinder, growth – especially as the world increasingly transitions to a cleaner economy.

                        B.C.’s booming clean-tech industry is a prime example of the benefits of pricing pollution. Entrepreneurs cite carbon pricing as a key tool for stimulating clean innovation. In B.C., clean tech is on a roll, posting job growth that’s among the fastest of any sector in the province.

                        B.C. is home to seven of the companies on the 2019 Global Cleantech 100 list, more than the rest of the country combined. According to Cleantech Group, the firms on the list have collectively raised more than US$14-trillion in investment. With B.C. companies leading the way and ready to serve the world, B.C.’s clean-tech industry will provide a huge competitive advantage in ensuring an increasingly prosperous future for the province.

                        It’s an enviable position to be in, thanks, in part, to B.C.’s carbon tax.

                        None of this is surprising, of course. Putting a price on something that you don’t want (pollution) and using the revenue for something that you do want (such as lowering other taxes or investing in better infrastructure) makes economic and common sense. As Spencer Dale, group chief economist for energy giant BP, told Reuters: “If you want to reduce something, if you want to ration something, the best way of doing that is you put a price on it and that then provides incentive for everybody to play their role. … A carbon price, I think, is critical if we are to achieve that rapid transition to a low-carbon world.”

                        B.C.’s carbon tax is real-world proof that this simple economic concept holds true. Per capita consumption of fuels covered by the carbon tax is down in the province compared to the rest of the country, while B.C.’s economy has steamed ahead.

                        At the same time, we are using money raised by the carbon tax to lower personal income taxes (resulting in the lowest income taxes in the country for all but the highest earners) and corporate taxes; to provide rebates to low-income and rural families to ensure they are better off; and, soon, to fund green infrastructure – improving the overall competitiveness of our economy. It has also helped B.C. become a global leader in one of the world’s fastest-growing industries. In short, the carbon tax is a key tool that’s successfully driving clean growth in B.C.

                        With increasing political rhetoric around pricing carbon pollution in Canada, it’s important to look at the facts. B.C.’s experience with the carbon tax – the country’s longest experiment with such a policy – has been unquestionably positive. This should embolden others to follow B.C.’s lead on effectively pricing pollution for both environmental and economic success.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by grassfarmer View Post
                          Gas at the pumps here has risen from a $1 to $1.269 a litre in less than 2 months. The carbon tax was responsible for 4c of that rise yet that small amount is going to break us all and ruin the economy and life as we know it? Imagine what oil company profiteering and collusion are going to do then.
                          Good point!
                          We should get the government to control gas prices and keep them lower, so that greedy oil companies don't make gas unaffordable.
                          Just think!! If we let oil companies charge whatever they want for gas, it will get so expensive we will have to cut back how much we use and start walking and turning down the thermostat and using the train to go buy groceries and sell our cars and then the climate will be healed and wait......the planet will be saved by greedy oil companies?? whoda' thunk it?

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by bucket View Post
                            Here is a fact ...a few years ago they said that the forest fires saved our crops....so the next time we are in trouble with a heat wave in July and August they should start those large fires and let them burn????
                            Good point Bucket it definitely had an impact the last two years.

                            2017- the extra smoke from northern SK (arsonists, lightning, etc) cooled everything off about 10C for 10 days approximately and produced a great crop.
                            2018- the extra smoke caused by arsonists, lightning, etc in BC set crops back a good week which caused some downgrading after the Sept 7th frost.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jay-mo View Post
                              Good point!
                              We should get the government to control gas prices and keep them lower, so that greedy oil companies don't make gas unaffordable.
                              Just think!! If we let oil companies charge whatever they want for gas, it will get so expensive we will have to cut back how much we use and start walking and turning down the thermostat and using the train to go buy groceries and sell our cars and then the climate will be healed and wait......the planet will be saved by greedy oil companies?? whoda' thunk it?
                              Yup and once its too expensive to put a crop in ...then what???

                              I am not sure people in this country understand the importance of agricultural exports from this country and what it does for the economy????

                              And where is the train I can hop on to buy groceries....

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