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Mar 27, 2019 | 20:17 1 Has anyone found an effective additive that lowers oil temperature in the rear planetaries on Deere sprayers. I do use synthetic oil and yes I do travel too long on roads fully loaded. Reply With Quote
Mar 27, 2019 | 20:18 2 If it’s a 4830 do not over fill they heat with to much oil Reply With Quote
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  • Mar 27, 2019 | 20:31 3 years ago we added power up to a gearbox on a versatile 4750 swather, it was amazing how much it cooled
    in the oil patch days we ran synthetic gear oil in the pumps when the oil co's worked the piss out of them , really helped
    i am surprised a planetary would run hot ?
    the planetaries on our rogator don't even get warm Reply With Quote
    Mar 27, 2019 | 20:43 4 Don't know the exact name but some red type of gear oil from Texas refinery in moose jaw my brother uses keeps the planetaries cooler on his 4730....considerably. ... Reply With Quote
    Mar 27, 2019 | 20:46 5 I don't even keep dinosaur gearbox juice around anymore. Swather knife drive gearboxes taught me that back in the 90's. I believe powerup is a bandaid that current synthetic gear oils have made obsolete. If your gearbox is still running hot with a 75W90 synthetic in it you have other problems. Reply With Quote
    Mar 27, 2019 | 21:04 6 Finally, I have an answer on this site! Spent a decade burning up rear planetaries and every oil burning itself black after 100hrs of use. Until I tried Lucas hub oil. 85w140. Planetaries ran cooler and I no longer needed to change the oil between engine oil intervals, it still looked great after 200 hours. Reply With Quote
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  • Mar 28, 2019 | 07:23 7
    Quote Originally Posted by Daylate View Post
    Finally, I have an answer on this site! Spent a decade burning up rear planetaries and every oil burning itself black after 100hrs of use. Until I tried Lucas hub oil. 85w140. Planetaries ran cooler and I no longer needed to change the oil between engine oil intervals, it still looked great after 200 hours.
    Thanks for the suggestion. Reply With Quote
    Mar 28, 2019 | 07:37 8
    Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
    Don't know the exact name but some red type of gear oil from Texas refinery in moose jaw my brother uses keeps the planetaries cooler on his 4730....considerably. ...
    This might be Royal Purple.

    Has kind of a Cult following. From Texas.

    You can get it at Canadian Tire, Amazon, Jegs Racing.

    https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/royal-purple-max-gear-oil-75w140-946-ml-0289087p.html#spc

    About the most useful tool on my farm is one of those point and shoot thermometers.

    Greatest thing for checking for hot bearings and gearboxes on haying or harvesting equipment.

    You can do the whole machine in less than 5 min. Saves wearing out shafts and starting fires.

    https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/maximum-infrared-thermometer-0574632p.html#srp Reply With Quote
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  • Mar 28, 2019 | 20:30 9
    Quote Originally Posted by Daylate View Post
    Finally, I have an answer on this site! Spent a decade burning up rear planetaries and every oil burning itself black after 100hrs of use. Until I tried Lucas hub oil. 85w140. Planetaries ran cooler and I no longer needed to change the oil between engine oil intervals, it still looked great after 200 hours.
    funny these manufacturers can get away this shit in this day and age . planetaries should go thousands of hours on an oil change ? this is not common on other sprayer makes ? Reply With Quote
    farmaholic's Avatar Mar 28, 2019 | 20:45 10
    Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
    funny these manufacturers can get away this shit in this day and age . planetaries should go thousands of hours on an oil change ? this is not common on other sprayer makes ?
    Oh come on......its a John Deere! It would never be an engineering problem, it must be the oil's fault! Or the Operator!

    Maybe a Regulator is needed to force recalls for disasters in Ag machinery engineering, right bucket? Reply With Quote

  • Mar 28, 2019 | 21:35 11 Rumrocks! I lied to you. sorry. Its AMS 85w140. 18 hour day yesterday. Was tired. Not sure why I thought Lucas. That is what we were using in the quadtracs. Hopefully you see this in time. Reply With Quote
    SASKFARMER3's Avatar Mar 29, 2019 | 06:14 12 The 4830 and 4840 were very not running machines and hoses did break because of the heat. We added some oil from a company that's always at Farm progress show selling their products. It helped.

    The new one has a 1600 gal tank and I load at home and go with no issues and its just deere oil. Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2019 | 07:11 13
    Quote Originally Posted by Daylate View Post
    Rumrocks! I lied to you. sorry. Its AMS 85w140. 18 hour day yesterday. Was tired. Not sure why I thought Lucas. That is what we were using in the quadtracs. Hopefully you see this in time.
    Thanks for the advice, we used Amsoil in the planetaries all summer and never had oil breakdown even though the oil temperatures were 93 degrees c in the rear, that's one tough oil. Reply With Quote
    fjlip's Avatar Sep 18, 2019 | 11:34 14 What temps are others reading, MacDon M150 planetaries running Synthetic, on hot day, 130F. Knife drive 90F. Reply With Quote
    Sep 18, 2019 | 15:54 15 I'm surprised Chuck hasn't chimed in yet to deny that planets( or planetaries) can be cooler. He thought they only get warmer... Reply With Quote
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    Sep 18, 2019 | 17:13 16
    Quote Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
    I'm surprised Chuck hasn't chimed in yet to deny that planets( or planetaries) can be cooler. He thought they only get warmer...
    Right and would also spout it's Trump's fault. Reply With Quote