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Feb 12, 2019 | 08:07 61
Quote Originally Posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
Trudeau and ethics yea that’s news for CBC

I thought they had Trudeau in a vice this week until I found out the PMO controls everything. The ethics commissioner, new AG, parliamentary committee all have people from Liberals and Quebec appointed on them. Unless mrs Rebould testifies, the PM will skate again to re-election. Reply With Quote
helmsdale's Avatar Feb 12, 2019 | 09:33 62 Reply With Quote
Feb 12, 2019 | 10:34 63 It appears Wilson-Raybold has now resigned.

Native groups are also mad at Justin. Reply With Quote
helmsdale's Avatar Feb 12, 2019 | 10:43 64
Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
It appears Wilson-Raybold has now resigned.

Native groups are also mad at Justin.
Holy Eff! She's lawyered up as well. And the attorney is former Supreme Court of Canada justice Thomas Cromwell! Reply With Quote
Feb 12, 2019 | 11:33 65 The wind must have changed to the east. Is there a storm coming? The smell from Ottawa is building. The teflon PM may not be able to avoid the blast from the fan this time. Will be interesting to watch sunny ways explain this when he meets the press this afternoon. Does butts get thrown under the bus or do they both go down with this leaky ship? Reply With Quote
SASKFARMER3's Avatar Feb 12, 2019 | 11:51 66 Now let’s see if the $600 million he gave the Canadian media will pay off with lies. Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 12, 2019 | 12:14 67 Imagine you are a indigenous person working in the PMs cabinet listening him spout off on indigenous issues daily virtue signalling fluff day in day out knowing that your people have no drinking water and some live in abject poverty while at the same time he gives 20B to other govts and the UN and another 5B to illegals jumping our border. How any native person can cast a vote for this guy is beyond belief. Reply With Quote
    farmaholic's Avatar Feb 12, 2019 | 13:12 68 Maybe PM Bawl-baby Trudeau can cry a little, shed some crododile tears to wash away all his troubles.

    ****en disgrace. Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 12, 2019 | 21:36 69 Today, Trudeau the feminist threw Wilson-Raybould under the bus today and blamed the native woman....because it’s 2019.

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  • Feb 13, 2019 | 07:44 70 Look at Butts. He has a whistle hanging around his neck. Uses it to call the groper when he is out groping. “CHIRP! OH JUSTIN! “ Reply With Quote
    Feb 13, 2019 | 11:38 71 Largest shareholder of SNC-Lavalin is Quebec public pension plans.....what a mess.

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    Feb 14, 2019 | 08:56 72 Similar to the early stages of Ad-Scam, the Liberal MP’s have decided to cover up the illegal activity 5-4 with all five Liberal Justice committee MP’s on board.
    They voted down amendments to have Wilson-Raybould and Butts be interviewed by the justice committee....they also voted against having the LavScam investigation televised.

    The rot of corruption in the Trudeau government is getting bad. Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 14, 2019 | 09:21 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
    Similar to the early stages of Ad-Scam, the Liberal MP’s have decided to cover up the illegal activity 5-4 with all five Liberal Justice committee MP’s on board.
    They voted down amendments to have Wilson-Raybould and Butts be interviewed by the justice committee....they also voted against having the LavScam investigation televised.

    The rot of corruption in the Trudeau government is getting bad.
    even his groupie ,lisa laflamme seems perturbed Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 14, 2019 | 10:39 74
    Quote Originally Posted by caseih View Post
    even his groupie ,lisa laflamme seems perturbed
    Indeed the trained parrots enthusiastically repeating the Lib news releases word for word seem to be getting less airplay.

    I even saw a "bad" picture of Justin with his hair messed up and no shit eating smile.

    Justin must be wondering what happened to all his loyal lapdogs.

    I think this article hints at his problem. All his gender/minority/inclusiveness/ is biting him in the ass;

    https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/jody-wilson-raybould-fallout-detonates-real-change-brand/

    "There may or may not be a commission of inquiry into the grave allegation that PMO officials put heavy pressure on Jody Wilson-Raybould when she was Justice Minister and Attorney General to help Quebec-based SNC-Lavalin secure deferred prosecution; then, when she refused, she was demoted to Veterans Affairs. We don’t know. There may or may not be a shoe store of shoes yet to drop. We don’t know. Questions swirl in the vacuum of silence and absence of anything approaching clarity, their answers unknown. What we do know is this: the allegation involving Jody Wilson-Raybould and its aftermath has effectively kneed the Liberal government where it hurts the most—squarely in its Real Change™ optics.

    Given Wilson-Raybould’s former central placement in Sunny Ways™ imagery—the optimistic, photogenic promise of Real Change™ in gender equality, reconciliation, climate change, governance and transparency, even how MPs are elected—this is a serious blow for the government, even a possible coup fatal."

    Add to this the details in the article Bob posted about the 80 meetings they had with SNC's super lobbyists prior to rewriting the laws to allow SNC to avoid criminal charges.

    Months and months getting it all quietly set up and JWR wouldn't play ball.

    Might be MSM is a little embarrassed about looking at the squirrel. Reply With Quote
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  • farmaholic's Avatar Feb 14, 2019 | 11:56 75 What scares the shit out of me is that EVERY government will only want to appoint cabinet ministers and any other position of importance with members who are fatally loyal to the party cause or tow the line of the party's upper echelon's demands....that is dangerous. Reply With Quote
    Feb 14, 2019 | 11:56 76
    Quote Originally Posted by shtferbrains View Post
    Indeed the trained parrots enthusiastically repeating the Lib news releases word for word seem to be getting less airplay.

    I even saw a "bad" picture of Justin with his hair messed up and no shit eating smile.

    Justin must be wondering what happened to all his loyal lapdogs.

    I think this article hints at his problem. All his gender/minority/inclusiveness/ is biting him in the ass;

    https://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/jody-wilson-raybould-fallout-detonates-real-change-brand/

    "There may or may not be a commission of inquiry into the grave allegation that PMO officials put heavy pressure on Jody Wilson-Raybould when she was Justice Minister and Attorney General to help Quebec-based SNC-Lavalin secure deferred prosecution; then, when she refused, she was demoted to Veterans Affairs. We don’t know. There may or may not be a shoe store of shoes yet to drop. We don’t know. Questions swirl in the vacuum of silence and absence of anything approaching clarity, their answers unknown. What we do know is this: the allegation involving Jody Wilson-Raybould and its aftermath has effectively kneed the Liberal government where it hurts the most—squarely in its Real Change™ optics.

    Given Wilson-Raybould’s former central placement in Sunny Ways™ imagery—the optimistic, photogenic promise of Real Change™ in gender equality, reconciliation, climate change, governance and transparency, even how MPs are elected—this is a serious blow for the government, even a possible coup fatal."

    Add to this the details in the article Bob posted about the 80 meetings they had with SNC's super lobbyists prior to rewriting the laws to allow SNC to avoid criminal charges.

    Months and months getting it all quietly set up and JWR wouldn't play ball.

    Might be MSM is a little embarrassed about looking at the squirrel.
    BOOM! Reply With Quote
    fjlip's Avatar Feb 14, 2019 | 11:57 77 Trudo had about 40% of our vote in 2015. If 60% voted...24% of Canadians X'd the Liberal ballot. And ALL OF US get the dictator for at least 4 years! What a system! Reply With Quote
    Feb 14, 2019 | 12:28 78
    Quote Originally Posted by fjlip View Post
    Trudo had about 40% of our vote in 2015. If 60% voted...24% of Canadians X'd the Liberal ballot. And ALL OF US get the dictator for at least 4 years! What a system!
    Another meaningless statement without context.
    Actual data.
    2015 election
    Election turnout 68.3% of voters, 39.5% vote Liberal, and L win 54.4% of the seats = 27% vote L
    2011 election
    Election turnout 61.4% of voters, 39.6% vote Cons, and C wins 53.9% of the seats = 24% vote C

    The same argument you use against 2015 election was used by even more after 2011 election.

    Easy to complain but what is your solution? What system do you think is better? Reply With Quote
    Feb 14, 2019 | 12:58 79
    Quote Originally Posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    Easy to complain but what is your solution? What system do you think is better?
    Obviously you know little about our electoral system. If you did the first thing that would come to mind is Quebec has 8 million people and 78 seats while Alberta has 4 million people and 34 seats. BC and alberta have nearly identical populations yet BC has 8 more seats. West is way underrepresented in the senate.

    The US system is far far superior to our dictatorship. Reply With Quote
    helmsdale's Avatar Feb 14, 2019 | 13:26 80
    Quote Originally Posted by shtferbrains View Post
    Real Change™
    Love it Reply With Quote
    Feb 14, 2019 | 15:23 81
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Obviously you know little about our electoral system. If you did the first thing that would come to mind is Quebec has 8 million people and 78 seats while Alberta has 4 million people and 34 seats. BC and alberta have nearly identical populations yet BC has 8 more seats. West is way underrepresented in the senate.

    The US system is far far superior to our dictatorship.
    Hey Jazz, still insulting me I see. Why haven't you explained your claim I am a hypocrite that I asked you about in a thread last week?.

    Simply looking at population numbers does not tell the entire story. You see, not everyone living in a riding or province is eligible to vote. If you look at eligible voter numbers , the picture is much different. In fact in the 2015 election, the province with the average highest number of eligible voters per riding was in fact Quebec. (81,290voters/riding) (the link shows the number of eligible voters in every riding.) A young province like Alberta (80,379voters/riding), with many children under 18, non Canadian citizens working here, or a high number of out of province workers who could be registered to vote in another province for the federal election distort population numbers compared to electorate registry numbers. But maybe you are right and Saskatchewan should lose some ridings given they average only 53,500 voters per riding. (Be careful what you ask for)

    Furthermore, The Supreme Court ruled that ridings need to be adjusted so that the problem you pointed out is mitigated. That is why Alberta got 7 more seats in the last election, and Quebec only got 3 more. But it is an ongoing problem given the mobile population we have. Or when we have people like Jason Kenny claiming to be an Alberta resident by living in his mother's senior housing for 2 weeks a year so he could collect housing allowance while living in Ottawa when he was a MP.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popula...ederal_ridings
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    Feb 14, 2019 | 15:32 82
    Quote Originally Posted by fjlip View Post
    Trudo had about 40% of our vote in 2015. If 60% voted...24% of Canadians X'd the Liberal ballot. And ALL OF US get the dictator for at least 4 years! What a system!
    More fun with math.
    Hey fjilip. Based on your complain about Trudeau getting so much power with such little support, what is your opinion on the Conservatives in Alberta getting 26 seats in parliament from 59.5 percent of the popular vote, yet the Liberals in Alberta got 24.6% of the vote yet only received 4 seats. Do you feel the Liberals in Alberta were cheated since the Conservatives got 6.5 times as many seats from only 2.4 times as many votes? And the NDP only got 1 seat yet 11% of the vote in the last federal election.

    Still waiting for your suggestions for better elections.
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    Feb 14, 2019 | 16:27 83 The best election is no election.
    Have a parliament of say 200 MPs. Every year choose 40 people from the pool of Canadian citizens with no exceptions except prisoners and people too sick to serve. They serve for 5 years then they’re out. That way you’re constantly having new ideas coming in but others with experience to mentor them. Pay them well and protect their jobs at home. Let them choose their own leader.
    No more row after row of lawyers or career politicians.
    No more party whips. No party donations as a form of lobbying.
    Just janitors and mechanics and millionaires and stay at home moms. Some years Alberta might be over represented, some years Newfoundland will be underrepresented but it’ll average out over time.
    Sure they’ll make mistakes but they’ll be honest ones compared to what they do now.
    And 200 different agendas instead of 3 makes for honest debate, and no UN meddling. Reply With Quote
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  • fjlip's Avatar Feb 14, 2019 | 23:03 84
    Quote Originally Posted by dalek View Post
    The best election is no election.
    Have a parliament of say 200 MPs. Every year choose 40 people from the pool of Canadian citizens with no exceptions except prisoners and people too sick to serve. They serve for 5 years then they’re out. That way you’re constantly having new ideas coming in but others with experience to mentor them. Pay them well and protect their jobs at home. Let them choose their own leader.
    No more row after row of lawyers or career politicians.
    No more party whips. No party donations as a form of lobbying.
    Just janitors and mechanics and millionaires and stay at home moms. Some years Alberta might be over represented, some years Newfoundland will be underrepresented but it’ll average out over time.
    Sure they’ll make mistakes but they’ll be honest ones compared to what they do now.
    And 200 different agendas instead of 3 makes for honest debate, and no UN meddling.
    There you go, my answer too, ESPECIALLY no F*CKING Political Parties!
    Recall, if a certain number sign a petition, NO taxation without a vote on ballot. Reply With Quote
    Feb 16, 2019 | 08:32 85
    Quote Originally Posted by jazz View Post
    Canadas situation is much more serious because the liberals changed the law to save a company headquartered near the PMs own riding and to save the company from going under and the massive layoffs and votes that would go with it. Didn't see trump doing any of that. He had nothing politically to gain.
    This is a key point in this cover up.

    Trudeau and Morneau inserted a new law into the last budget omnibus bill that will give politicians the ability to get SNC-Lavalin and other crooked corporations out of trouble so they can continue getting federal government contracts. Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 16, 2019 | 15:08 86
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
    This is a key point in this cover up.

    Trudeau and Morneau inserted a new law into the last budget omnibus bill that will give politicians the ability to get SNC-Lavalin and other crooked corporations out of trouble so they can continue getting federal government contracts.
    And this new little "secret" law - which allowed the accused to make remediation rather than go to trial - came about as a result of about 70 (recorded) visits to the PMO by SNC Lavalin lobbyists.

    SNC was already under investigation when these friendly little chat-ups started.

    One of the conditions for being allowed to make remediation rather than going to trial was that the accused party could not have any prior convictions on their record. SNC does have previous convictions.

    So when Jody said "NO deal, the rules say that you're going to trial", SNC threw a little fit and went after Butts puppet, who went to visit Jody, who said "NO, I do not consent".

    And because he didn't like the threats from SNC, Justin had no choice but to throw another woman under the bus.

    He's building a solid track record and reputation as a misogynist, a woman abuser.

    Hell of a thing for a self-proclaimed feminist Prime Minister.
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  • Feb 18, 2019 | 14:34 87 As predicted Gerald Butts has taken one for this sinking ship and has resigned.

    Will Justin let us commoners know the facts on this LavScam criminal activity or continue the coverup? Reply With Quote
    Feb 18, 2019 | 14:48 88
    Quote Originally Posted by Oliver88 View Post
    As predicted Gerald Butts has taken one for this sinking ship and has resigned.

    Will Justin let us commoners know the facts on this LavScam criminal activity or continue the coverup?
    And which UN agency will Butts be working for by the end of the week? Reply With Quote
    Feb 18, 2019 | 14:54 89 Butts may be ok with beingthe “butt” of all jokes but the cold steel bars, not really too fond of those. “ Jump, while you have the chance”, is what his advisors chanted. Deflect this one Libtards. Reply With Quote
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  • Feb 18, 2019 | 19:17 90 Liberal commentator, Warren Kinsella mentioning RCMP now getting involved. 🍿

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