Carbon tax on fertilizer

[Guest]

Good one furrow !

[Guest]

The carbon tax is simply a small price to pay towards the extinction debt. It's about time.

[blackpowder]

Watching the county load gravel from a stockpile for spreading today. It occurred to me that this is a tax on everything but before other taxes.
I am now going to pay higher municipal taxes to pay for the increased cost due to carbon tax.

It then also occurred to me that our entire planets' civilization is based on hydrocarbon usage. Every industry on the planet relies on it. Every humans' needs are served by it.
But our foundational industries will pay more. Concrete, shipping, construction, lumber, steel.
So rather than a consumption tax like say the GST, our foundational and our basic engine industries will pay disproportionately more.
Not for a while yet I'm sure, those same industries in 2/3 of the world outside the "first" world.
Not to mention the population that lives outside major urban centers, (who take public transit and don't have need for automobiles. Or gravel roads to name a few).
Raising the GST and calling it what it is. Using it for the right things, health care and education for example, is one thing. This carbon scheme is quite another.
A politically friendly consumption tax but heavier on only part of the population. Selling well to those who have the least to lose (they believe).
Playing in to the UNs ideal to artificially morph the world's population into economic equality.
Sadly, equality does not exist in nature. And this scheme too, will eventually prove a disaster.

Can't find a good ending in history of fanatical support of a tax.
Will choking our economies lead to the scientific breakthroughs we desire??
Time will tell.
I'm certain most of the net revenue from this tax will go to general revenues not replacement energy R&D.
Unless of course, all the people behind this whole scam know something they aren't telling.

[furrowtickler]

The carbon tax is simply a small price to pay towards the extinction debt. It's about time.

Well , your dead wrong there ... if this cabin tax kicks into full gear we are done in agriculture... period . No way to off set extra cost like every other industry in the world that can simply pass in the cost to someone else .. we will be fuked

[furrowtickler]

Everyone’s carbon tax cost will be downloaded to primary producers .... every single thing we need to operate, let alone our living expenses. It will absolutely evaporate our disposable income to below zero .
Every thing we produce is shipped out one way or the other ... those costs will increase, every single input we need will increase, parts , service , fuel, seed , fert , herbicides, insecticide, everything will have the added cost .... and for Ralph Goodiepants to say farmers won’t pay is absolutely fukin ridiculous

[Guest]

if the idiots manage to ram it through , it will go the way of the dodo bird , same as it did in austrailia . look how long it lasted there .

[blueversi]

So, why waste your time on here ??

He needs something else to fill the day after he crawls out from under Trudopes desk

[furrowtickler]

Yup and all that money is going to go to deadbeats of society that contribute zero wealth to this nation ..... yup great plan and the climate will never change over this tax .. ever .
The only way to produce food will be like the Amish... horse and buggy ... just like 100 years ago. Yup that’s gona feed 8 billion people lol 🙄

[fjlip]

That son of a bitch all all his ****ing minions on the radio all day saying we will all get back more than we pay are absolutely EVIL! And not one interviewer will ask WTF how can we get back more than we pay? If so why bother or how the hell will that change anyone's actions? And CO2 is POLLUTION is repeated in every sentence and NO interviewer will dare say IT IS NOT Pollution but essential to all life on earth!! Total Morons all Liberal SOB's and every media hack!

[Guest]

if the idiots manage to ram it through , it will go the way of the dodo bird , same as it did in austrailia . look how long it lasted there .

Instead of Charlie Brown look at Gabe Brown. Try to keep up.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/86717226/gabe-browns-five-keys-to-soil-health

[Guest]

Instead of Charlie Brown look at Gabe Brown. Try to keep up.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/farming/86717226/gabe-browns-five-keys-to-soil-health

Carbon tax was abolished in austrailia as it will be here
try to stay focused
sorry you couldn't make it farming , has made you bitter

[chuckChuck]

BC has had a carbon tax for 10 years! Has it fallen into the ocean yet? It has a strong and growing economy. All this doom and gloom you would think that an asteroid is heading for earth. Get a grip.

Preston Manning, Michael Chong, The CD Howe Institute, and numerous Corporations support a carbon tax as the best market driven option to speed up the transition to using less fossil energy.

This is going to be a long transition and most of us will be long gone before we stop using fossil energy.

Prime Minister Steven Harper even signed a G7 agreement saying Canada would stop using fossil energy by the year 2100.

Don't rely on politicians who depend on the oil industry "donations" to do your thinking for you. The oil industry has been ripping us off for ever and not even adequately paying to clean up their mess.

Saudi Arabia is already planning to diversify their economy away from oil.

Norway has over a trillion dollars in savings from their oil boom and is one of the leaders in reducing carbon emissions in Europe. It is also one of the best places to live in the world. We mismanaged and continue to mismanage our resource sector and have little to show for it.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Forget that baloney. There is no money in leaving idle farmland. There is rent/mortgage/taxes. Fuel for tillage , land erosion. One third to half the yeild of best management practices and the world will starve.

Has anyone done the math on net CO2 emissions per acre on an organic farm with tillage vs. a conventional no-till farm with inputs?

[blackpowder]

That son of a bitch all all his ****ing minions on the radio all day saying we will all get back more than we pay are absolutely EVIL! And not one interviewer will ask WTF how can we get back more than we pay? If so why bother or how the hell will that change anyone's actions? And CO2 is POLLUTION is repeated in every sentence and NO interviewer will dare say IT IS NOT Pollution but essential to all life on earth!! Total Morons all Liberal SOB's and every media hack!

Yup. A sell job.

[Guest]

We are a lot like austrailia
IT WONT LAST
Dont lose any sleep over it
All the people that believe it will do some good are probably gonna make money off it
And for the dumb ****s that believe the provinces will get it all back ;
Ask yourself this question , “have you ever saw any federal program that wasnt at least half eaten by admin costs ?????”