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    #16
    It just comes down to pay us more and everyone will follow the rules and make money so there is room to breathe in this business. Guys get the “**** it” attitude because no one else gives a shit about the guy growing the product that actually makes this whole damn economy spin. Sad. We give more of a shit about an athlete or movie star than the people that help feed people. I by no means think spraying a chemical at the wrong time is good anytime but reason is the producer looks at the calendar and says this has to get done or the alternative could be next spring. I don’t think the grain buyer could give 2 shits if the farmer had it sit out over winter. They would spin it and say the guy was a poor manager. Pay the guys! Simple

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      #17
      It would be best if everyone followed the spray rules but the big problem will be once consumer's read the article then go to the grocery store and avoid all the oat products then demand for oats drop right off and so does the price.

      It won't matter if the article is accurate or not or if glyf is safe or not you put oats and cancer in the same sentence in a news story and consumers will avoid it like the plague.

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        #18
        http://static.producer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/CFIA_ACIA-9123346-v1-FSSD-FSSS-Glyphosate-Final-Report-15-16_0184101.pdf#_ga=1.196489061.892407858.149210720 4

        Health Canada has yet to release a study on glyphosate residues in major cereals. It was supposed to be released late in 2017 or early in 2018. I expect the news is bad that is why we haven't seen it yet.

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          #19
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          http://static.producer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/CFIA_ACIA-9123346-v1-FSSD-FSSS-Glyphosate-Final-Report-15-16_0184101.pdf#_ga=1.196489061.892407858.149210720 4

          Health Canada has yet to release a study on glyphosate residues in major cereals. It was supposed to be released late in 2017 or early in 2018. I expect the news is bad that is why we haven't seen it yet.
          Apparently it did not come up with the predetermined conclusion so going to need time to doctor the data. If there was a problem the news would have been rushed out the door. Problem was the science suggested there was not a problem.

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            #20
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            http://static.producer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/CFIA_ACIA-9123346-v1-FSSD-FSSS-Glyphosate-Final-Report-15-16_0184101.pdf#_ga=1.196489061.892407858.149210720 4

            Health Canada has yet to release a study on glyphosate residues in major cereals. It was supposed to be released late in 2017 or early in 2018. I expect the news is bad that is why we haven't seen it yet.
            Health Canada did a Re-evaluation study on glyphosate and released it April of 2017. This may not be the one you are referring to but the link is below. I'm not weighing in one way or another just putting it out there for people to read.

            The overall finding from the re-examination of glyphosate is highlighted as follows:

            -Glyphosate is not genotoxic and is unlikely to pose a human cancer risk.
            -Dietary (food and drinking water) exposure associated with the use of glyphosate is not expected to pose a risk of concern to human health.
            -Occupational and residential risks associated with the use of glyphosate are not of concern, provided that updated label instructions are followed.
            -The environmental assessment concluded that spray buffer zones are necessary to mitigate potential risks to non-target species (for example, vegetation near treated areas, aquatic invertebrates and fish) from spray drift.
            -When used according to revised label directions, glyphosate products are not expected to pose risks of concern to the environment.
            -All registered glyphosate uses have value for weed control in agriculture and non-agricultural land management.

            https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/consumer-product-safety/reports-publications/pesticides-pest-management/decisions-updates/registration-decision/2017/glyphosate-rvd-2017-01.html

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              #21
              It’s funny when some are extremely adamant about the proof of scientific studies only when it fits their agenda and won’t acknowledge scientific studies that prove like the post above . It’s called being hypocrisy.

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                #22
                Originally posted by jamesb View Post
                trouble is that too many farmers are spraying gly too early and using it to kill the crop not weeds only. Ive been told that from millers that used at correct staging gly is not a problem. Let the crop rippen a little guys
                Glyphosate IS NOT a desiccant. It is not registered for desiccation. It is a herbicide, period. Anyone using it to help ripen green patches in a field is misusing glyphosate. Unless the seeds are firm in the head, it a glyphosate residue will be found in the crop. And I guarantee, the seeds in those green plants in patches, or low lying areas are not at 30% moisture which is where glyphosate is no longer translocated into the seed. So if you are using it to even up the field, or speed up harvest, you are part of the problem and contributing to the future loss of glyphosate.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by ajl View Post
                  Apparently it did not come up with the predetermined conclusion so going to need time to doctor the data. If there was a problem the news would have been rushed out the door. Problem was the science suggested there was not a problem.
                  It is too soon to speculate. Lets wait and see what the promised report actually says.

                  But knowing that many farmers are spraying glyphosate heavily just before harvest on all their crops and that many of those applications are too early, there is s good chance the residues will be too high.

                  That is likely why some retail ready products are testing way above the MRLs.

                  There are many green patches in this years crops due to uneven germination that are way later than the majority of the crop. Farmers can wait and wait or swath. But applying glyphosate will not fix this level of uneveness in many cases.

                  This issue is not going away and farmers should be more careful or they will be forced to stop using preharvest glyphosate.

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                    #24
                    And the overuse of roundup as occurred in the usa midwest will lead to more resistant weeds in the prairies making it useless in the future.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                      It’s funny when some are extremely adamant about the proof of scientific studies only when it fits their agenda and won’t acknowledge scientific studies that prove like the post above . It’s called being hypocrisy.
                      again , like pouring water on a ducks back , waste of time

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by caseih View Post
                        again , like pouring water on a ducks back , waste of time
                        Lol I know .... I just had to throw that in there

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by caseih View Post
                          again , like pouring water on a ducks back , waste of time
                          Exactly why some of us have stopped engaging, a complete waste of time, no standard is high enough if it doesn't support the agenda.

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                            #28
                            So if glyphosate residue isnt a problem if applied at the proper time of plant maturity, why is it not registered as a desicant. Is it because it doesn't work very well? Was it not worth the trouble for Monsanto to get it registered for desication? Just saying. In my area virtually all wheat is sprayed? So why is it used? Are weeds in crop that big of a problem when staight combining? Is it because the stubble is nice to seed into the next spring?
                            Last edited by grefer; Aug 17, 2018, 20:19.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by grefer View Post
                              So if glyphosate residue isnt a problem if applied at the proper time of plant maturity, why is it not registered as a desicant. Is it because it doesn't work very well? Was it not worth the trouble for Monsanto to get it registered for desication? Just saying. In my area virtually all wheat is sprayed? So why is it used? Are weeds in crop that big of a problem when staight combining? Is it because the stubble is nice to seed into the next spring?
                              It is because the neighbors use it, and many think it is necessary in order to farm. It isn’t. You ain’t a farmer around here If you don’t do pre harvest.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by grefer View Post
                                So if glyphosate residue isnt a problem if applied at the proper time of plant maturity, why is it not registered as a desicant.
                                If glyphosate residue isn't a problem why isn't everybody spraying their seed crops? Click image for larger version

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