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Jails for kids at the USA border? Looney tunes!!

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    #16
    Originally posted by macdon02 View Post
    Let's see where does a guy start.... even though I'm not paying any taxes in your country, if I knowingly break the law and drag my children with me across a foreign border I'm entitled to your entitlements as a non tax paying foreigner. These entitlements include social programs I've paid **** all into and I guarantee I'll pay nothing into them if you allow me (And my 13 kids) in. Why would anyone work and contribute when it's all free. Healthcare, food stamps, iPhone .... the list goes on. The difference between ancestors 100 years ago and today was there was no socialism. They bought their own boat ticket to get here. They had no healthcare on arrival. There was no food stamps. They busted their balls and went to work to survive. They fought, they bled, and they did their absolute damndest to fit in. They didn't ask society to change for them, they changed to fit in. Germans that had Nazi heritage changed their names to be accepted. No one today will do what our ancestors did. They are immigrating for money because we offer a free ride to all. If that opinion makes me racist, so be it. It's the most overused term by the left today( Marx coined it) Commie bastard that he was. Make the parents take responsibility for leaving their kids in a jail, last I saw the kids were free in the country they left. It's not our responsibility to fix the world, we don't have the money because our govt pissed it away. Giving to everyone that didn't pay taxes for services in return ..... we are a long ****ing ways from a one world govt. If they go through the legal process, the paperwork and everything else involved, by all means we should welcome them with open arms. I have the utmost respect for someone wanting a better life and willing to go through the process. It isn't all "good people" getting detained.
    +1000. All I can say is this summary should be read until its understood.

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      #17
      Canad also detains the children of illegals. No one knows the conditions cause it is top secret.

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        #18
        I don't understand why a country that is full of the descendants of immigrants and refugees who came to Canada for a better life has so many citizens who have nothing better to do than complain about refugees and immigrants who want the same?

        Both Conservative and Liberal governments have brought in hundreds of thousands of immigrants which helps to offset our declining birth rate and grow our economy.

        Until recently most of our refugees have passed through regular border crossings legally. The safe third country agreement and Trumps anti-immigrant policy have driven refugees to cross illegally into Canada.
        We can fix that by ending the safe third country agreement.

        Legitimate refugees deserve compassion, understanding and a chance to succeed just like our ancestors received.

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          #19
          Originally posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
          Chuck what don’t you get. If someone wants to be American or Canadian go about the right way to do it. Apply if your accepted you become a citizen. It’s a tough concept for liberals I know. Trudeau your hero will go down because one he paid a terrorist and second because he made our borders mean nothing. The USA has a right to keep people out.

          But bleeding heart liberals can’t get the picture. If trump did nothing as president he sure showed normal people how stupid liberals really are.
          amazed how some defend Trump.I guess if you have the same family values as him Putin North Korea leader and Rozanne then join his team.

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            #20
            I’m amazed how some people don’t respect the law. How some people don’t see an underlying agenda. How some people are ailing to see taxes go to 100% of income and we still run deficits on top of that. How they have no respect for the hard work, lives lost, and the ethic that built this country ow going further down the drain. How they don’t see who profits from theses policies.

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              #21
              Originally posted by samhill View Post
              I’m amazed how some people don’t respect the law. How some people don’t see an underlying agenda. How some people are ailing to see taxes go to 100% of income and we still run deficits on top of that. How they have no respect for the hard work, lives lost, and the ethic that built this country ow going further down the drain. How they don’t see who profits from theses policies.
              how do you put a cash value on basic human rights.Wars are fought over human rights not money

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                #22
                So you want me to pay for everything wrong in the world, not the people who cause it. Do we not have a UN that we send a lot of good money to?
                Countries have armed forces in order to protect people, we pay money for that.
                How about I send you $2500 free every month, no repayment. You would likely enjoy that, no worries about me, just spend my money, but I’d be broke in no time. In fact even better if you can take my money as you please,

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                  #23
                  https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-immigration-photo/father-says-little-honduran-girl-on-time-cover-was-not-taken-from-mother-idUKKBN1JI082

                  Is it all bullshit and the media lies?

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by macdon02 View Post
                    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-immigration-photo/father-says-little-honduran-girl-on-time-cover-was-not-taken-from-mother-idUKKBN1JI082

                    Is it all bullshit and the media lies?
                    In that particular instance who knows? Did a reporter get to the scene and witness a little girl crying for mommy and jump ahead to assume mommy was gone? Is the man making the claim really her father?
                    However the fact is or is it fake that republicans themselves couldn't stand to see what was happenning and therefore force the squirrel to reverse what he was doing? If not that little girl are the other ones that are missing from parents not in trouble?

                    One of the things said by a reporter which I believe to be totally true is that what mak s the separations even more difficult is the fact of the level of incompetency by the officials. They seperate kids and parents and don't have a record of who is who or who went where???? How dumb is that and how inhumane is that particularly to the ones that aren't coming to do harm.

                    What's not being reported is many are fleeing the drug cartels and face death have no choice.

                    Yes I don't think we should be solving everyone else a problems. We are at the point of not being able to handle this migration of people to the point we are risking our own societies.

                    Where the hell is the UN? There ought to be safe zones where all these people can be taken and then processed as to who is legitimate but even if they are can we simply carry on taking in all these people?

                    Here's an idea for all those immigrants coming in why not all the money they get be loans? My kids have loans for school loans for room etc? Why not them? You come here yes we put you up but you get a job and you start paying back what we gave you. Many of these people are being given a better start than our own residence and looked after better than our seniors for example that have built his country.

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                      #25
                      Fact check: Do refugees get more financial help than Canadian pensioners?
                      Refugees


                      Sonja Puzic, CTVNews.ca
                      Published Monday, November 23, 2015 12:01PM EST
                      Last Updated Tuesday, December 1, 2015 1:53PM EST

                      As Canada’s new Liberal government moves forward with its plan to resettle 25,000 Syrian refugees by the end of the year, false claims about how much money will be spent to support them have been circulating online.

                      The federal government is debunking claims that refugees receive nearly $2,500 in monthly assistance – more than the maximum amount Old Age Pension recipients can collect.

                      An infographic that has been widely circulated by email and shared on social media claims that Ottawa gives refugees a “monthly pension” of $1,890, plus $580 in social aid, for a total of $2,470 per month or nearly $29,000 per year.
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                      The infographic says that Canadian seniors, meanwhile, cannot receive more than $1,012 per month, or $12,144 per year in Old Age Pension and Guaranteed Income Supplement benefits.

                      The Government of Canada says those claims are false.

                      “The email mistakenly includes the one-time start-up payment as part of the monthly payment,” an explainer on the government’s website says.

                      “The amount of monthly financial support that government-assisted refugees get is based on provincial social assistance rates. It is the minimum amount needed to cover only the most basic food and shelter needs.”

                      The maximum monthly income for Canadian pensioners cited in the infographic is also false.

                      So what kind of financial support will Syrian refugees get once they arrive in Canada?

                      According to the Canadian Council for Refugees, government-assisted refugees can get some help through the federal Resettlement Assistance Program.

                      That support is generally available for up to a year. The maximum amount provided is $25,000 per family. That includes a one-time start up payment to help refugees establish a household in Canada, as well as monthly income support, a spokesperson for Citizenship and Immigration Canada said.

                      The monthly payments depend on the size of the family and social assistance rates in each province.

                      Citizenship and Immigration Canada estimates that an individual in Ontario would receive roughly $2,065 in a one-time start-up allowance, to cover things such as basic household needs, furniture, winter clothing and telephone installation if a landline is chosen. The estimated monthly assistance to a refugee in Ontario is $768, but the department notes that individual circumstances vary and so do the monthly payments.

                      The government also helps refugees find permanent housing, learn how to set up a bank account and register for various federal and provincial programs.

                      However, the Canadian Council for Refugees says that most resettled refugees end up in debt because they are expected to repay the cost of their transportation to Canada and other related expenses – with interest. The council says that more than 90 per cent of refugees repay their loans.

                      Privately sponsored refugees are not entitled to federal or provincial government assistance during the period of their sponsorship. Asylum-seekers who apply for refugee status upon arrival in Canada also can’t receive resettlement assistance.

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                        #26
                        Hmmmm. Do they not get a total of $3600 / month ??
                        I will pass on the info I seen when I have time to find it. I watched a news article on this issue.

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                          #27
                          It was on a CBC video from 2016 . Google it ..

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                            #28
                            As farmers, many of ancestors came here for land that was taken from first nations with little compensation and given to settlers who worked hard to build a life here in Canada. Many farm families benefited greatly from the gift of land and the welcoming start received in Canada.

                            Refugees and immigrants also work hard and contribute to Canada.

                            Almost everyone on this site receives the benefits of farm subsidies and government programs like health care and other social support programs.

                            All this complaining about support for new refugees and immigrants seems very ironic when we consider our own history.

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                              #29
                              Little compensation?????? Your kidding right ??
                              We pay very dearly for those social programs and health care through tax’s for both our families and “many others “
                              Who don’t contribute through tax’s .
                              No compensation... lol

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                                It was on a CBC video from 2016 . Google it ..
                                People seem to have come to conclusions without having the facts.

                                Getting information second and third hand is like going to the coffee shop and believing every story told is the truth!

                                Ever played the rumour game?

                                But facts don't really matter any more! LOL

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