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Mar 7, 2018 | 17:49 1 New CEO says CN will spend more on equipment and personnel to move grain. Duh!! Reply With Quote
Mar 7, 2018 | 17:55 2 What a revelation. ...holy cow...the numbers told them the problem months ago. Reply With Quote
Mar 7, 2018 | 18:00 3 That's great. However I can't help but think there is more to it.

According to ATC CP is within about 600 cars of last year while CN is off over 14,800 compared to last year, Week 30 Reply With Quote
Mar 7, 2018 | 19:23 4 One question---- what size of severence package did he get???? Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Mar 7, 2018 | 19:34 5
Quote Originally Posted by food4u View Post
One question---- what size of severence package did he get????
To reward fucking failure?

Heads on a stake in front of CN's corporate office. ..just as a reminder Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Mar 7, 2018 | 19:41 6
Quote Originally Posted by farming101 View Post
According to ATC CP is within about 600 cars of last year while CN is off over 14,800 compared to last year, Week 30

WTF&Y? Reply With Quote
Mar 7, 2018 | 21:23 7 Pretty sure most of the retired cn workers don't want to go back to work. Reply With Quote
Mar 8, 2018 | 04:27 8 it is not about moving grain .
it is about dividends , share value and foreign acquisitions .

don't be silly Reply With Quote
Mar 8, 2018 | 04:38 9 thought Harper had this all fixed with the fines he never collected.

to be fair it has not hurt me personally that much this winter,
not like last time .
have not needed to move much .

pretty sure I will be seeding around at least one bag.
more to do with price .

local elevator says 2 wheat trains behind ,and , have all the canola they need for march.

started on a 20, 000 bly contract in north battle ford , . 1/3 done , waiting for trains.

just imagine the mess if all the lentils and peas had a home to go to.
instead of being carried over.

more money will not fix it. they will just buy another railroad and locomotives in the states with it.

we know Canadian winter is tough, but after 50 years of disappointment , at some point , some govt.
has to view it as , needed public service , for the economic future of the country.
and take charge at some level.
Last edited by sawfly1; Mar 8, 2018 at 04:59.
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farmaholic's Avatar Mar 8, 2018 | 08:02 10 Relating to the last fiasco

What was it? fines of 100K to CN and 50K to CP


In some cases a single farmer could have payed these fines..... but unfortunately the value of these fines did cost many Producers this much money, and the Gov fines large corps amounts that are equivalent to pocket change to them! Reply With Quote
Mar 8, 2018 | 08:10 11 There were no fines paid...wtf are you talking about? Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Mar 8, 2018 | 08:19 12
Quote Originally Posted by bucket View Post
There were no fines paid...wtf are you talking about?
"What was it?" with a question mark.

The exercise was to show how little it meant to the RRs

First I thought it was supposed to be 100K a day, then 100K a week, then a one time "token" fine that may have not ever been collected! Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Mar 8, 2018 | 08:34 13 The $100K per day may have never been enacted or "quietly changed" to $100K per week........


https://ipolitics.ca/2018/02/27/prairie-farmers-brink-great-grain-crisis-2-0/
Last edited by farmaholic; Mar 8, 2018 at 08:38.
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Mar 8, 2018 | 08:48 14 Much like the article in the western producer about that farmer's malt barley and mentioned what good is the laws if no one enforces them?

Or no one wants to?

No fines no enforcement no changes.

But just keep building them bins while Russia kicks our ass.


Pretty sad that its an NDP Ruth Ellen Brosseau in Ottawa saying Canada’s reputation is under threat "because we can't get our shit together' in regards to the problems facing grain transportation.

Where are the conservatives that aided in this mess?
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Mar 8, 2018 | 10:56 15
Quote Originally Posted by sawfly1 View Post
thought Harper had this all fixed with the fines he never collected.

to be fair it has not hurt me personally that much this winter,
not like last time .
have not needed to move much .

pretty sure I will be seeding around at least one bag.
more to do with price .

local elevator says 2 wheat trains behind ,and , have all the canola they need for march.

started on a 20, 000 bly contract in north battle ford , . 1/3 done , waiting for trains.

just imagine the mess if all the lentils and peas had a home to go to.
instead of being carried over.well it wont be this f&$king loser

more money will not fix it. they will just buy another railroad and locomotives in the states with it.

we know Canadian winter is tough, but after 50 years of disappointment , at some point , some govt.
has to view it as , needed public service , for the economic future of the country.
and take charge at some level.
Well it wont be this f&$king loser figuring it out Reply With Quote
Mar 8, 2018 | 17:03 16 case ih please elaborate
I had a lot of peas sold last fall .
but lentils I have still got .

if that is what you are talking about

as for fines , I think CN paid 150,000
and CP probably spent several hundred thousand in lawyers, maybe a million , not to pay a 50,000$ fine.

so CN paid about 1/2 of 1 average farmers losses over the 2 years.
Last edited by sawfly1; Mar 8, 2018 at 17:09.
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Mar 8, 2018 | 17:25 17 CN had hired extra workers when Harper was in but CN laid off most of that extra help 2 years ago after oil prices went down . Lately they tried to get those workers back but most have moved on to other jobs to at least make a living . Now CN needs to rehire and retrain a bunch of new workers after getting caught with their pants down . CN actually thought those laid off workers would still be available ready to jump back in after two years. Well , that’s the arrogance of companies like CN and oil industry, they think they can just snap their fingers and experienced workers will be back .... well that’s not a reality anymore. Cost of living is far too high to sit on unemployment for any length of time now. Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Mar 9, 2018 | 07:29 18 I went to the CanPacific potash mine open house yesterday. All proposals at this time. Rail options out of it are Stewart Southern Rail or CN. Apparently CN wants more potash business since CP supposedly has most of it now..... They kinda got the deer in the headlight look when I told them CN only fulfilled about 17% of the requested graincar orders lately. Although it would be a completely different scenario for them.... contractual obligations! Just think, more competition!

Apparently CN would own the spur line going to the mine. The existing rail that would be serving it is very under utilized at the moment.

Under the circumstances I have a hard time believing the shortline will be chosen or able to service them if kilometers of new spur line will have to be built.
Last edited by farmaholic; Mar 9, 2018 at 07:35.
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farmaholic's Avatar Mar 9, 2018 | 07:49 19 The size of the potash unit trains talked about is somewhat hard to believe. How long(how many cars) are the grain trains being pulled to port now? And I think to myself, if they have to shorten the grain trains in the winter..... won't they have to shorten them for the potash unit trains as well? Reply With Quote