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Nov 2, 2017 | 12:03
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How's everyone making out with contracts and deliveries? Phoned to book in two loads at advertised price in Viterra Trochu and was told even though they list a price on their app they cannot make new contracts for anything prior to march delivery as they still haven't moved August contracts. Managed to get booked into Kindersley, but unsure of when they can get movement. Inquired at a few other locations and many are still sitting on August contracts as well.
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Nov 2, 2017 | 12:50
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Sitting on overdue contracts.....hmmmm. ...interesting.....two sides signed the contracts......
It is a dysfunctional system....it's also keeping a lid on prices.....
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Nov 2, 2017 | 14:39
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Going through exact same problems Bucket. Frustrating and like you say contracts seem to be very one sided. Entertain yourself and play some games. Catch them if you can. This week I called different locations in neighboring provinces using a different company name and offered to sell the exact product already under contract at a steep discount if they could take and pay in a week. Miraculously it wasn't an issue at all yet the higher priced contract cannot be moved or even a ballpark delivery date given. What a joke !!
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Nov 2, 2017 | 14:51
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So now the question is .....where is all the money from the checkoffs going?
Seems stupid to improve varieties and production and then get set back because the contracts are not worth shit. ....
So maybe a saskpulse rep could comment on getting a standardized contract that's meaningfull for all pulse growers. .....or is that not saskpulse's mandate?
Last edited by bucket; Nov 2, 2017 at 14:54.
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Nov 2, 2017 | 19:41
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 Originally Posted by helmsdale
How's everyone making out with contracts and deliveries? Phoned to book in two loads at advertised price in Viterra Trochu and was told even though they list a price on their app they cannot make new contracts for anything prior to march delivery as they still haven't moved August contracts. Managed to get booked into Kindersley, but unsure of when they can get movement. Inquired at a few other locations and many are still sitting on August contracts as well.
I believe Trochu is having issues because CN has parked cars on their track from the train that derailed north of town. They can’t get movement right now. Not that peas seemed to be moving particularly well right now anyway.
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Nov 2, 2017 | 21:16
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Sounds like an enlarged prostate problem. ....the diagnosis procedure is about the same....bend over and take it!
Sorry, I couldn't help but see the similarities.
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Nov 2, 2017 | 21:43
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Originally Posted by bucket
So now the question is .....where is all the money from the checkoffs going?
Seems stupid to improve varieties and production and then get set back because the contracts are not worth shit. ....
So maybe a saskpulse rep could comment on getting a standardized contract that's meaningfull for all pulse growers. .....or is that not saskpulse's mandate?
The pulse board actually pushing back on the industry? You are drunk bucket go straight to bed.
The board is to busy singing the praises of the Davidson contract breaker.
All bow to the pulse man of the year agriville fellas
Iceman Out
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Nov 2, 2017 | 22:00
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Here us your checkoff dollars hard at work. I don't think I see anything about contracts not getting fullfilled. Lots of dollars bring spent on trying to convince Canadians to eat pulses. $5,000,000.00 worth of pea and lentil taste testing. Yikes
 
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Nov 2, 2017 | 22:05
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Sorry read that wrong. 3.5 million in handing out samples of Sask lentils all over the globe.
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Nov 2, 2017 | 22:29
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Oh shit.... here I thought the check off money was for creating private label pulses for certain processors.....
And then use Canadian government funds to support their purchases of Ukrainian product.....
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Nov 2, 2017 | 22:31
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I brought up some marketing issues to Sask pulse at Ag In Motion was told that directors would look into it and get back to me.
Not a sound so far.
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Nov 2, 2017 | 22:55
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We make lentil soup and eat chickpeas(lots) in a spinach salad. Kidney beans in chili. How many people have been served a five or seven been salad. Chick peas with fresh tomatoes, feta cheese, onions and garlic. It.wouldn't hurt for Canadians who weren't raised eating pulses to incorporate some into their diet. Doubt it would make much of a dent in available supplies though.
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Nov 3, 2017 | 04:36
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i have a 10,000 bus . oct. contract. richardson
they are now saying jan. feb.
figured i would take a later oct. contract , because i got tired of taking the lower early
sept price. and still haul in Dec.
the terminal was clean and quiet . everybody sitting on their hands .
no train in three weeks. and when they do come , they are wheat wheat and canola.
no talk of peas
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Nov 3, 2017 | 06:03
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Originally Posted by farmaholic
We make lentil soup and eat chickpeas(lots) in a spinach salad. Kidney beans in chili. How many people have been served a five or seven been salad. Chick peas with fresh tomatoes, feta cheese, onions and garlic. It.wouldn't hurt for Canadians who weren't raised eating pulses to incorporate some into their diet. Doubt it would make much of a dent in available supplies though.
Might have to change your name to Fartaholic.😝 Just kidding!
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Nov 3, 2017 | 06:04
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You can probably thank the lack of movement on poor Indian demand. Weren't they driving this thing the last couple of years? I wonder if some of those earlier contracts were bought on speculation and demand never picked up. Now someone might be long some pricey peas in a flat market waiting for the prices to heat up. Assumption.
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Nov 3, 2017 | 06:06
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Originally Posted by sumdumguy
Might have to change your name to Fartaholic.😝 Just kidding!
Cute. Seems the body adjusts.....
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Nov 3, 2017 | 06:16
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Originally Posted by sawfly1
i have a 10,000 bus . oct. contract. richardson
they are now saying jan. feb.
figured i would take a later oct. contract , because i got tired of taking the lower early
sept price. and still haul in Dec.
the terminal was clean and quiet . everybody sitting on their hands .
no train in three weeks. and when they do come , they are wheat wheat and canola.
no talk of peas
If they have empty bims and contracts signed they should have to take it. What was Ritz thinking when he gave them 3 months to honor them? What about Sec 60 of the Grain Act? Load a truck and park in their drive bet they find a place for it. Likely have a house bin sitting empty.
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Nov 3, 2017 | 06:46
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Originally Posted by wmoebis
If they have empty bims and contracts signed they should have to take it. What was Ritz thinking when he gave them 3 months to honor them? What about Sec 60 of the Grain Act? Load a truck and park in their drive bet they find a place for it. Likely have a house bin sitting empty.
I'm okay with a one month grace period, but the second is b.s. even at that there should be a penalty for extending the contract whereby if they choose to extend, the storage penalty of $0.10/Mt per day should double for each extension, and if unable to move it by the end of the extension, the penalty applied from the first day of the first extension.
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Nov 3, 2017 | 06:59
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Originally Posted by helmsdale
I'm okay with a one month grace period, but the second is b.s. even at that there should be a penalty for extending the contract whereby if they choose to extend, the storage penalty of $0.10/Mt per day should double for each extension, and if unable to move it by the end of the extension, the penalty applied from the first day of the first extension.
Hear you! Except if they have empty bins and no orders to ship yet have outstanding contracts they should have to take delivery.
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Nov 3, 2017 | 07:04
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Anyone remember lyle Stewart bragging about the value of ag exports from Saskatchewan. ....the lentil and pea crop exports are non existent. ....funny how industry and politicians become mute when they should be the loudest....
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Nov 3, 2017 | 07:18
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It’s good to see the financials.
It takes a generation to change people’s taste, comfort, and cooking preferences. I don’t use many pulses but kids do.
If the food manufactures start including more pulses the investment will be cheap, when, what volumes and preference for Canadian pulses yet to be determined.
A real life example of how to make a Commodity, quickly.
So it looks like we have a dead cat, and now we will wait for the dead cat bounce.
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Nov 3, 2017 | 07:18
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Guys that don't pay their inputs get charged 18 to 25% retroactive to the day they took the input. That is thievery but it happens that way so why not the other way?
Farmers are the brightest people in the world!! Pass me a non addictive to meth joint please that will make it ok!!!
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Nov 3, 2017 | 07:35
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And never mind the interest , in a year of poor crops in some areas not moving a large proportion of their crop will be a disaster interest charged, credit lines not renewed, and no trip to Bahamas. And where are our mla and mps???
Oh ya in the Bahamas. Hahahaha
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Nov 3, 2017 | 09:06
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Originally Posted by farmaholic
You can probably thank the lack of movement on poor Indian demand. Weren't they driving this thing the last couple of years? I wonder if some of those earlier contracts were bought on speculation and demand never picked up. Now someone might be long some pricey peas in a flat market waiting for the prices to heat up. Assumption.
This is again a issue with decent indian demand but Black sea origin dropping the market and keeping Canada out of it. Some vessels of peas have been defaulted on so they can't force more contracts into the market. It will have ramnifications for peas for another 12 months at least.
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Nov 3, 2017 | 09:15
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Originally Posted by dave4441
This is again a issue with decent indian demand but Black sea origin dropping the market and keeping Canada out of it. Some vessels of peas have been defaulted on so they can't force more contracts into the market. It will have ramnifications for peas for another 12 months at least.
Great news!! Just another crop not worth growing. Lentils will soon be in the same sentence.
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Nov 3, 2017 | 09:27
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Originally Posted by farmaholic
We make lentil soup and eat chickpeas(lots) in a spinach salad. Kidney beans in chili. How many people have been served a five or seven been salad. Chick peas with fresh tomatoes, feta cheese, onions and garlic. It.wouldn't hurt for Canadians who weren't raised eating pulses to incorporate some into their diet. Doubt it would make much of a dent in available supplies though.
Same here. My wife is using more pulses including using lentils in chili reducing the amount of hamburger in it. Using both ingredients produces a good tasting chili and reduces the grocery bill. Long term trend will reduce the demand for beef though.
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Nov 7, 2017 | 15:51
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My Local Elevator has sign up limits on Peas until
New crop.
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