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Bayer sells to BASF

Oct 13, 2017 | 08:14 1 For 7 billion bucks, Bayer dumps the liberty seed and chemical business.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/bayer-t...ion-1507877275 Reply With Quote
Oct 13, 2017 | 08:55 2 Perhaps this explains why Bayer hasn't had any rebates or time limited discounts on Canola seed lately. |Either that or else they decided they have no competition left and we will buy regardless of price? Reply With Quote
SASKFARMER3's Avatar Oct 13, 2017 | 09:23 3 I’m not that disappointed as liberty trait is available to other companies In 2019. So all will have liberty seed some will actually out perform our 252 so maybe ok but what sucks is farmers are f8&ked again Reply With Quote
Oct 13, 2017 | 14:35 4 How so? Reply With Quote
Oct 13, 2017 | 17:30 5
Quote Originally Posted by SASKFARMER3 View Post
I’m not that disappointed as liberty trait is available to other companies In 2019. So all will have liberty seed some will actually out perform our 252 so maybe ok but what sucks is farmers are f8&ked again
Couldn't agree more.

Competition is good. Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Oct 13, 2017 | 17:32 6
Quote Originally Posted by HappyFarmer View Post
Couldn't agree more.

Competition is good.
It's Friday the Thirteenth not April Fool's Day! Competition in Ag... Not really. Reply With Quote
Oct 14, 2017 | 07:52 7 Bayer knows there will be strong competition in the In liberty seed market .... time to bail . Reply With Quote
farmaholic's Avatar Oct 14, 2017 | 07:58 8
Quote Originally Posted by furrowtickler View Post
Bayer knows there will be strong competition in the In liberty seed market .... time to bail .
I think the RR seed market is much bigger and lucrative. ....patent issues with Liberty tech....follow Monsanto's lead.

Too late.... Reply With Quote
Oct 14, 2017 | 15:34 9 Does anyone know if the pod shatter technology went with the sale or did Bayer retain it and just license current varieties to BASF? Reply With Quote
iceman's Avatar Oct 14, 2017 | 17:43 10 Gonna be some reps looking for jobs now

Iceman Out Reply With Quote
Oct 14, 2017 | 21:29 11
Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
Gonna be some reps looking for jobs now

Iceman Out
Actually no, the employees are bought too, and i believe 3 years work. 300 in Canada. Reply With Quote
SASKFARMER3's Avatar Oct 15, 2017 | 11:32 12 Yes either the BASF Rep will be gone or the Bayer rep will be gone.

Farmers loose in these deals always do.

Competition bureau is Bullshit.

How is this good for farmers? Reply With Quote
Oct 15, 2017 | 11:57 13 See, this is a good example of people speaking with absolutely no knowledge of the industry.

BASF doesn't sell seed. So SF3, why would they get rid of employees they don't have? Reply With Quote
Oct 15, 2017 | 12:15 14 Two things as a farmer with the changing landscape I was happy to hear that these products went to a company that really wasn't in that space already.
As far as losing a rep I wouldn't even know if our Bayer rep left cause I didn't even know we had one . Reply With Quote
Oct 15, 2017 | 13:16 15
Quote Originally Posted by mcfarms View Post
Two things as a farmer with the changing landscape I was happy to hear that these products went to a company that really wasn't in that space already.
As far as losing a rep I wouldn't even know if our Bayer rep left cause I didn't even know we had one .
They don't need reps because there is no warranty on liberty , lol Reply With Quote
iceman's Avatar Oct 15, 2017 | 14:33 16 No way they keep double the workforce buddy. Half them will hit the streets.

Iceman Out Reply With Quote
SASKFARMER3's Avatar Oct 15, 2017 | 15:53 17 Tweeter another good example of how out of touch you really are. Reply With Quote
Oct 15, 2017 | 19:32 18 Actually have to agree with Tweety on this one....sales reps were promised 3 years of employment. They are going to need a big crew to try and maintain 60% canola marketshare in western Canada. Reply With Quote
iceman's Avatar Oct 15, 2017 | 22:20 19
Quote Originally Posted by Goodtime View Post
Actually have to agree with Tweety on this one....sales reps were promised 3 years of employment. They are going to need a big crew to try and maintain 60% canola marketshare in western Canada.
No group 9 resistance has insured they will maintain the 60% market share.

They will shrink the Bayer reps areas and in turn increase sales targets and boom you won't have to wait 3 years to cull the herd.

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Oct 15, 2017 | 22:32 20
Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
No group 9 resistance has insured they will maintain the 60% market share.

They will shrink the Bayer reps areas and in turn increase sales targets and boom you won't have to wait 3 years to cull the herd.

Iceman Out
Liberty has 60% market share.....if you shrink the reps areas aren't they making room for more reps? BASF has a shit load of other products so they aren't going to eliminate their sales force. Reply With Quote