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Mar 28, 2017 | 11:09
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Yes all the time.
Women or men it doesn't matter as long as each knows what they are doing on the job.
This is typical CBC shit.
Useless television or radio
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Mar 28, 2017 | 11:26
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We appreciate ALL the people that help out on our farm. Gender doesn't matter here. People matter.
Also, there are women that run farms around here that people see as good farmers rather than women running a farm. When they sell their calves they get the same price as anyone. Their grain sales aren't discounted because they have ovaries.
Other sectors that don't pay equal for work of equal value are just so ethically wrong it's hard to comprehend that it even happens in this day and age, at least in the west, leaving Muslim countries out.
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Mar 28, 2017 | 13:10
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A collective "Are you ****ing kidding me?" from pretty much every woman in agriculture.
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Mar 28, 2017 | 13:39
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 Originally Posted by tweety
A collective "Are you ****ing kidding me?" from pretty much every woman in agriculture.
Huh? How the F would you know?
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Mar 28, 2017 | 14:25
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Typical CBC trying to stir shit up on easy targets where there is no issue. Where is the opinion on women wearing their living room curtains over their themselves and getting beaten by their husbands? Oh wait, you can't say such things anymore because CBC's boy wonder made it illegal.
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Mar 28, 2017 | 14:37
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Originally Posted by tweety
A collective "Are you ****ing kidding me?" from pretty much every woman in agriculture.
Have you grown breasts lately? Was fairly certain you were a guy.
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Mar 28, 2017 | 14:44
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Blaithin, how about your farm? If I remember right you're young? Do you you ever feel less appreciated than others on your farm?
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Mar 28, 2017 | 15:13
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Originally Posted by Braveheart
Blaithin, how about your farm? If I remember right you're young? Do you you ever feel less appreciated than others on your farm?
Not on my farm as I'm by myself. Only myself to get mad at LOL (I should rephrase that, if I feed too slow my cows don't appreciate me)
Working within the industry though... yes there are issues and challenges. More than other industries? I couldn't say but probably not. Is it a common issue? No, or at least the vocal people are farther between than the accepting ones. Can't say what people are actually thinking.
I have run into more noteable moments. In one interview a farmer said he'd never hired a woman before, did I think he'd need to hire more than one if he hired one? His teenage daughter was part of the interview, to this day I wonder what he would say if someone asked her that...
The more common type I experience though, is almost subconscious. People don't even realize they're being slightly sexist. An example of this would be my current job. I work for a large Ag company that is good at hiring women. The last one to work in the position I'm in now was a few years ago. I've been told they almost didn't hire me as she made a bad impression always having to leave to look after her kids and having sick days, etc.
Because I'm a woman I was judged on previous female employees from years past. Meanwhile there's a middle aged white guy here - the type that goes home and drinks a 12 pack every night, puts the minimal effort in and could happily live of welfare the rest of his life - yet never once has anyone said "well the last middle aged white guy was kind of useless so let's pick those candidate last."
Minorities and youth frequently get those same kind of judgements.
I've had absolutely amazing bosses and never had a moments thought about being judged because of my sex. Then I've had douche bag bosses who were pretty much jerks to everyone, man or woman.
But yes, the judgement is still out there.
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Mar 28, 2017 | 15:28
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My wife and mother do parts runs, paperwork, accounting, feeding the crew, checking cows, cutting hay, and run the silage chopper. They do a better job of it than our hired guys most of the time as well. This while packing around two little kids. Everyone has a different skill set and you try to utilize it the best you can. All the cattle handling equipment is bought by women here since if they don't like it then I don't want it. This is obviously a slow news day story......
At least in my opinion. 
My wife and her "toy"
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Mar 28, 2017 | 15:31
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Blaithin, thanks for the honesty. It was enlightening.
I don't like the word "feminism". It sounds like a word that divides. But your comment that sometimes what you see is subconscious struck me. So, what can we do better? Will attitudes eventually change with generational change?
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Mar 28, 2017 | 17:42
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CBC is unappreciated. Let's trade them for Syrians.
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Mar 28, 2017 | 18:16
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Braveheart, yes Feminism seems to be earning the context of women over men and that's not its definition at all. Which is unfortunate, it's a good word in its natural state.
As for the subconscious, I think most of it is just how we grew up. Most "sexism" for lack of a more suitable word, isn't actually about women not being able to do certain things but more that we should be doing certain other things. Getting married, having babies, putting supper on the table. My mom, who is a big supporter of farming and grew up on a farm, is reknowned for telling me my life is unbalanced because I'm not out looking for a husband and settling down. I think standards like this are going to change with the generations as my generation approached relationships much differently than my Moms and Grandparents. (For better or worse LOL)
But how could we maybe stop such slapstick judgements? It's hard, everyone judges. Personally I really dislike generalizing so I try hard not to do that and it helps a lot in judging people on their own actions instead of others actions. I also try to understand where someone is coming from of they're making comments. The guy at the interview really annoyed me for instance. That was pure ignorance. The guys at work just amused me because they don't even realize what they were saying and how it might be offensive.
Also a big part of today's sexism challenges is how sensitive some people are. Not only, all or just Millennials, but people from all walks of life and ages. Most sexist things are, and probably always will be,tongue in cheek jokes so as long as someone has a healthy sense of humour, life will be much easier.
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Mar 28, 2017 | 19:21
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Dad should appreciate their help and invest in a cordless grease gun
Jokes aside this is a liberal story at its finest. Women have been spending time in the fields since forever. Slow news day in liberal land by the looks of it
Iceman Out
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Mar 29, 2017 | 07:48
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Is it just me or does anyone else see these type of articles as condescending?
Last edited by Jay-mo; Mar 29, 2017 at 07:59.
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Mar 29, 2017 | 08:40
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of all people , even i , a cbc fan ( at of least the informative and thoughtful stuff)
it is getting more than a little out of hand. so much so i am beginning to agree
with a lot of you
, by trying to create issues like this out of nothing.
and inclusive is fine , and dealing with issues is fine too .
but the constant LGBT and now
native /metis , all the time.
give it a rest.
the icing on the cake , was yesterday.
the canada reads cbc show.
first was cathy palmater .going on about the newest bitch.
the 60s scoop. adopting native kids.
then chantel chraviasic, the singer ,another book reviewer, had to stay in L.A. because her kid was in hospital with a bad asthma attack.
which she blamed totally on global warming
and no one called BS on anything.
very disappointing.
the sad part is , crap like this will take the good parts that are left , down with them.
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Mar 29, 2017 | 12:23
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Just a question to the guys who replied along these lines to this thread...
Why do you think news outlets are being too liberal or creating issues out of nothing or having slow news days when they write articles such as this one?
Obviously some women feel this way at times. Myself, others, ladies interviewed in such articles, etc. Which suggests there is still an issue out there regarding sexual discrimination.
Have you ever paused to think that completely denying the fact that there are people effected by this is a form of sexual discrimination in itself? Insinuating we're maybe being too sensitive or possibly don't know our own experiences and rely on the news to influence us unduly.
Sexism affects men too. That's undeniable. And any time I think I might be getting close to being overly discriminatory to men I stop and think how would I feel if someone told me that?
How would you as men feel if you were told you were being too sensitive or emotional? Or if you were told you need a woman to get ahead in life, you can't do it on your own?
You're probably going to reply something along the lines of "Oh, I've been told those things before. It was a joke!" And yes, a lot of it starts as a joke. That doesn't mean it doesn't lose its humour after a while.
Let's try an example here.
I think men are all too sensitive and defensive over articles about discrimination against women. It's like you all take it as a personal insult and might have a bit of a guilty conscience that you feel must be vehemently covered in denial that there's an issue at all.
There, I've generalized you all together, insinuated the issue is really a fault of yours, not ours, and pretty much said suck it up.
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Mar 29, 2017 | 12:57
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Originally Posted by Blaithin
Just a question to the guys who replied along these lines to this thread...
Why do you think news outlets are being too liberal or creating issues out of nothing or having slow news days when they write articles such as this one?
Obviously some women feel this way at times. Myself, others, ladies interviewed in such articles, etc. Which suggests there is still an issue out there regarding sexual discrimination.
Have you ever paused to think that completely denying the fact that there are people effected by this is a form of sexual discrimination in itself? Insinuating we're maybe being too sensitive or possibly don't know our own experiences and rely on the news to influence us unduly.
Sexism affects men too. That's undeniable. And any time I think I might be getting close to being overly discriminatory to men I stop and think how would I feel if someone told me that?
How would you as men feel if you were told you were being too sensitive or emotional? Or if you were told you need a woman to get ahead in life, you can't do it on your own?
You're probably going to reply something along the lines of "Oh, I've been told those things before. It was a joke!" And yes, a lot of it starts as a joke. That doesn't mean it doesn't lose its humour after a while.
Let's try an example here.
I think men are all too sensitive and defensive over articles about discrimination against women. It's like you all take it as a personal insult and might have a bit of a guilty conscience that you feel must be vehemently covered in denial that there's an issue at all.
There, I've generalized you all together, insinuated the issue is really a fault of yours, not ours, and pretty much said suck it up.
My issue is that nothing will be done about it, whether it is discussed or not. Just get people hot and bothered about it, do the Canuck method and call a public inquiry, blow a shitload of dollars, file a report 3 years later and the government pats itself on the back and says they did what they could. Same people who actually think a MMIW inquiry is going to accomplish anything besides show that alcoholism, depression and suicide is rampant in the Indian population and that Indian racism is rampant in the white population. But we'll spend 10 million+ to get a piece of paper that says just that. It's not that the government is going to write a 1 trillion dollar cheque to bring Indian standard of living up to white man standards.
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Mar 29, 2017 | 13:06
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Originally Posted by 15444
My issue is that nothing will be done about it, whether it is discussed or not. Just get people hot and bothered about it, do the Canuck method and call a public inquiry, blow a shitload of dollars, file a report 3 years later and the government pats itself on the back and says they did what they could. Same people who actually think a MMIW inquiry is going to accomplish anything besides show that alcoholism, depression and suicide is rampant in the Indian population and that Indian racism is rampant in the white population. But we'll spend 10 million+ to get a piece of paper that says just that. It's not that the government is going to write a 1 trillion dollar cheque to bring Indian standard of living up to white man standards.
I can understand that.
Personally I consider it an individual issue, not something the government can regulate. There's enough equal opportunity employment stuff out, don't need more and more programs.
But I do like articles like this to pop up now and then to get people to think. News, even more than providing information, should make people think. Just like this discussion is making us think.
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Mar 30, 2017 | 08:39
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Blaithlin, professional women in agriculture don't want to be recognized and appreciated for being women. They want to be appreciated for their knowledge and contribution, no different then a male. Sex is irrelevant, or at least should be. That is what the article should be about. Forced appreciation is never the way to go.
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