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    More bad news for lentils and peas

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/business/india-rejects-extension-on-pulse-imports-in-blow-to-canada-s-largest-market-1.3298895

    India has not renewed an exemption on requiring fumigation before export.

    #2
    Where else does India buy pulses from? This should knock out every Northern Hemisphere grower's market Canada is not alone in cold winters where fumigation doesn't work.

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      #3
      As usual ....let our checkoff dollars wait until it's a crisis.....management of farmer's checkoff or advocate money have dropped the ball...and the guys that buy and load our product. ...


      But as usual it comes back to farmers financially.....

      The ****ing middleman lives well off us and still sends us the bill for their incompetence....

      Rather than renaming varieties or selling varieties to processors for a pittance .....how about seeking a permanent solution rather than 6 month reprieves. ....

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        #4
        Does this ban include processed and packaged product? Maybe more proof we should be marketing finished product instead of raw.

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          #5
          Wmoebis


          Excellent question and point. .....

          Although the importing country would find another way to lower prices while our farmer advocates and so called representatives twiddle their thumbs under their ass ( their heads are there too)....or continue to argue about whether checkoffs should be refundable or how little they charge processors for private label varieties developed by farmers money.....

          People taking on these positions have to start paying attention and start looking after those that voted them in.....

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            #6
            Like our beef industry. USA can buy Canadian beef, finish and process it then sell as USA product.

            What is stopping a company like AGT from buying from us and shipping them to be processed at their plants in Turkey then selling them to India as Turkish products?

            Just wondering I really don't know.

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              #7
              It affects 40kg bags.



              Have a container of them sitting in limbo because they arrived after the order ran out.


              Now what.... dump them in the ocean?

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                #8
                Originally posted by Klause View Post
                It affects 40kg bags.



                Have a container of them sitting in limbo because they arrived after the order ran out.


                Now what.... dump them in the ocean?
                1) the order expires March 31...
                2) the price in india has puked...that's why they are in limbo...if the l/c is opened they lose. Hopefully you took 25% upfront before loading.

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                  #9
                  If there is no infestation detected and guaranteed by the CGC in shipment at time of loading, why is fumigation even needed?

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                    #10
                    What's wiseguy's mantra?

                    .......any excuse! Anyone for a "game" of Scruples?
                    Last edited by farmaholic; Feb 26, 2017, 12:38.

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                      #11
                      Short AGT

                      Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only, please.
                      Iceman out

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                        #12
                        India has had a goal of self sufficiency for years, this year with higher plantings and good growing conditions it appears Indians are willing to slam the border shut on long term suppliers. For how long is yet to be determined as the reality is production goes up and down, continuously; the border will reopen at some time, and to we should hope, a much less complacent exporter.


                        All that is clear is this Trump is not alone in the "my country first policy".


                        Expanding markets and consumption is essential: did you eat or promote the consumption of beans, peas, chickpeas or lentils today?

                        www.lentils.ca

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                          #13
                          The criticism of the pulse checkoff and people that put time in to make the industry better for everyone is unwarranted.
                          This trade issue has been on-going for a long time and is not nearly as easy to solve as it may appear. The concern from India centres around soil presence and the possible existence of a nematode they feel could be harmful to their agriculture. We do not have the nematode species they are concerned with, but can have others. A soil-free shipment doesn't exist. And an exporting country cannot simply dictate to a customer importer what their requirements ought to be.
                          When they desperately need the product, they take it. Currently, with better domestic production that they have had for a while, import need has eased, but their pulse prices have fallen -the government wants Indian farmers to keep growing a lot of pulses, so uncertainty around imports can help achieve that.
                          There has and is a ton of work going on to diversify the market-to obviously lessen the reliance on a few big markets. That doesn't not come easy nor happen overnight. It takes a long time to change the consumption behaviour of a North American for example.
                          We have to continue to trade with India and China if we want to keep selling large quantities of pulse crops. This dispute will get ironed out. And it will only happen government to government-pulse organizations have a role and are doing it, but ultimately international trade must be enabled by the fed gov and international trade rules.
                          The value of check off dollars in keeping trade happening thru informing government on issues of importance, working together with industry to identify what needs to be done, and ensuring growers interests are prominent easily returns many more dollars in every farmers pocket than the cost of the levy. One issue is that not enough of us take the time to learn about our industry and all that is being done.
                          It's fine to question what is being done or how it is being done, but to assume those involved are not doing anything is wrong.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by LWeber View Post
                            1) the order expires March 31...
                            2) the price in india has puked...that's why they are in limbo...if the l/c is opened they lose. Hopefully you took 25% upfront before loading.
                            Send them to Bangladesh or Pakistan if they are red lentils. Call all the smaller marketers. They will find a home for them.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by iceman View Post
                              Short AGT

                              Give me a ping, Vasili. One ping only, please.
                              Iceman out
                              You got it!

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