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A walk through the pea plots ..

Jun 26, 2016 | 10:24 1 Went through the Racks pea plots yesterday, it's going to be a carbon copy of last years results . Yield yet to be determined but the percent differences will be about the same.
Anyone who says certain foo foo products don't work , need to look at that data from last year - this year will be the same .
The effects of herbicide injury already show big difference in plant health and growth.
Exact same layout as last year so it is easy to walk through and see first hand
No coffee shop b/s and second , third or forth hand misinformation needed. Just fist hand touch , feel and observation tells a huge story Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 10:32 2 Furrow

Anything on using odyssey and then getting lots of rain? Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 10:35 3 The nice part about it, quite different environmental conditions this year compared to last year. Dennis is doing plots on lentils also this year. Watching the radar everyday, he might just get lentil soup south of Rosetown. Heavy rains every few days. 4 inches at Soveign colony yesterday. Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 10:41 4 Bucket - if you used straight herbicide - get fungicide on ASAP to try to save the top end of the pea plant .
All these trial have been done with viper. Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 10:54 5 Not sure that's possible.... the nodules are turning brown and waterlogged. Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 11:17 6 Why is there no block that has Heat used pre seed? I'm looking at the book right now and trial only show pre emergent Heat. Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 12:01 7 Good question for the Rack
I don't set up their plots lol Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 12:31 8 I am fairly certain you know the answer to your question , I do but your fishin and I ain't biting lol Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 13:57 9 Haha. But you can't just omit something and bash it and expect to have a reputable research paper on it in the end. One of a few things that put the pea plot results into question. Reply With Quote
Klause's Avatar Jun 26, 2016 | 16:36 10 What's the difference pre emerge to Preseed. 3 days? Doesn't make any difference don't use heat in spring if you grow peas. Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 18:43 11 Using the heat preseed would raise the question mark of seeding openers and soil disturbance (hoe vs disc etc).
So the Treflan/Authority/Glyphosate tank mixed? My chem guy this spring said it would turn to toothpaste. Does the Treflan work without incorporation on direct seeded fields?
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Jun 26, 2016 | 19:34 12 Klaus - What does an opener do to soil? Moves it away from the seed bed. Heat is perfectly safe chemical and superior to any other pre seed option for pulses.

This is where poor research and jumping to conclusions gets you. Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 19:41 13 And I bet ya The Rack doesn't mind selling a farmer Authority/Treflan and there 15$ micro mix.

99% effects when it comes to aphanomyces comes from rotation and weather conditions. Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 20:11 14 Well , well . That raises an eyebrow who you are .. Lol
Heat is registered to spray post seeding up to ground crack of emerging crop . That is the reason they are doing it post seeding - lmao
Yes you are 100% correct , somewhat safe as a pre seeding tool , if you remove the treated soul from the seed row when seeding . This research proves otherwise post seeding that was recommend safe till ground crack
Whoops - I bit the hook lol Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 20:14 15 Did you actually walk through the plot last year - actual results were in your face - and are this year
They did not omit anything - just doing what was recommended by the Chem reps at the time and replicated it - many times with the same result .
Oh oh , fish on !! Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 20:26 16 Yup - has nothing to do with damage from herbicides weakening the immune system of a plant - nope , lol Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 20:29 17 Yes I did and I've walked thru the ones of yours by the highway this year again. When you don't have Heat pre seed then bash Heat you are omitting something. But not trying more cost effective micro packages and pushing your 15$ one you are omitting things. Treflan was shown to suppress the disease way before these plots. That's not ground breaking.

Micros aren't needed with Viper if you're doing things right and have a little weather luck. Use lots of water. Do it at proper staging. Avoid low and high temps. The only time ninjas Viper flash was last year where I accidentally double sprayed one headline. Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 20:31 18 You don't have too buy into there system 100% , just take the part that fit your operation .
Dyodd fellas . It's spelled out for you Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 20:39 19 Like I said , walk through the plots first hand if you want the full story - I will bring the beer .
I never said anything about heat - you did by the way - I still won't . It is what the plots show , I am not bashing anything anymore . Look for your self
There will be a 50 % increase in yield in some of those plots with foo foo juice added to " normal " practice with a reduction in crop disease . Just like last year .
Again never said a word about ap root rot either . Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 20:47 20 Ronski - you Chem guy needs to go back to school - I did 1000 AC - no issue , so did many others .
Very few want to have you have a healthy pea plant that does not fungicides - not hard to figure out Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 20:49 21 I will show you personally where I did it and let 10 ft by 50 ft checks and the results of weed control and plant health - in fact I will stay in the truck and let you walk through - they are all flagged Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 20:50 22 Furrow what foo foo juices were added?
Alpine and micros?
Anything else. Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 20:58 23 Who ever published something that treflan supressed disease ? That was never widely known to anyone - why ? The pulse growers have dropped the ball on this years ago and blamed it on less than eight year rotation and environmental conditions - well things have changed ...
If it is wet to the point of mud - all bets are off and yes you may be screwed... But that has not been the case here but it's still in your face Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 21:03 24 Also , when were you in my field without my consent ? I will gladly take you if you call . But I have , or anyone around me seen anyone out there other than the Racks crew wich has full consent . Just wondering is all Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 21:06 25 They start with the basic burn off , innoculant seed treatment and herbicide and go from there - replicated many times
It's all in last years Rack book. There is a lot , pick out what you deem useful to you - everyone is different . Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 21:15 26 I gauretee that 99% of the pile growers in western Canada had no idea of the reduction in disease control by trifuralin btw until the Racks trials showed it - no one wants us to know that in the industry Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 21:26 27 That should be pulse growers - dam phone Reply With Quote
ado089's Avatar Jun 26, 2016 | 21:28 28 Focus + 1/3 rate pursuit pre seed. Centurion, 1/2 tilt and 2L G22 in crop. 64 # MESZ in the seed row. Whish I could take credit for all of it but a dry Bo with timely rain is the key. Name:  IMG_20160626_155809.jpg
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Jun 26, 2016 | 21:30 29 Where do we find the information on last years pea trials? Is the book like you mentioned available to anyone? How do I get it? Reply With Quote
Jun 26, 2016 | 21:31 30 Proper staging - really , wow that's right outa a Chem book / reps mouth . So we have a 1/2 hr per day to spray certain herbicides ?
Gove credit to most of us us that do know when to spray, and what conditions , that's just Fukin insulting . Reply With Quote