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    #16
    WOW just caught the last of the Rafter G sale sold 1500 head in 25 minutes.

    The fiew prices I heard were in the $1380 range.

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      #17
      What kato said.

      A lot of us cow guys aren't 29 years old any more. I find that there is a direct link between age and risk aversion.

      If my sons wanted to start up I think this would be the time.

      But the paycheck from the trades they work in makes risk look less attractive as well.

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        #18
        Did willnot just admit that farmers and landlords have a right to THEIR own grain? That would be a right to property wouldn't it? I can own my grain, but I can't sell it to who I want? WTF?

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          #19
          If a landlord cash rents they have choosen not to have a say in cropping and marketing decisions of the grain.

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            #20
            <i>"Landlords have just as much right to decide
            where THEIR grain is marketed as anyone else."
            </i>.
            So landlords should have a right to decide where
            their grain is marketed, but the farmers
            shouldn't..........Now I understand the pro-single
            desk position perfectly.

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              #21
              We do not allow landlords to make ANY decisions whether or not it is a cash/crop/or modified rental agreement. Nothing I hate worse than someone else thinking they know whats good for my biz. Eerily similar to my feeling on the CWB.

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                #22
                Even the cash renting Landlord? Or just the crop share landlord?

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                  #23
                  The standard chant in the debate is that farmers should decide. A landlord is not a farmer yet is continully grouped as a farmer when they tally the votes. At the same time those farmers outside the board do not get a vote. Does one have more of a vested interest in the outcome than the other. You could claim American's who do business in Canada have a vested interest in the outcome of a federal election but we don't allow them to vote in our election.

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                    #24
                    I am not considered a farmers by the
                    CWB since i have not had a permit
                    book since 2007.

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                      #25
                      1500 head in 25 minutes? How big were the lots?

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                        #26
                        Ya they got to lot 9 and they were done. So 9
                        divided by 1500 is 166. DLMS was
                        thanking/apologizing local buyers for comming
                        out and thanked them for bidding.

                        I did this at a small farm/acreage sale this
                        summer, they had 10 lots of new fence posts
                        high bidder on first bundle could take 1 bundle or
                        as many as they wanted, I took all 10 cost me
                        $3000 but I saved $500 from the local Ufa price
                        17% discount

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                          #27
                          Only the ones that are forced to sign a contract should be the ones allowed to vote. It may result in a few real farmers not being able to vote but would make it so an awfull lot of non farmers do not get to vote.

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                            #28
                            Reading over your post about fear of debt kato reminded me of my long past grandmother. Annie in 1985 had $50,000 in the bank and her pension paid her lodge expenses and gave her a little money left over. She worried for days if she had should spend a little and get her hair done? Thankfully mom assured her she should go for it!

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                              #29
                              I'm not so surprised that bred heifers seem to be over supplied, the country seems to be full of them. Problem is two fold - one: many of the bigger scale cow/calf guys that are serious about staying in the business longterm rear their own replacement heifers.

                              and two: many of the heifers for sale are not the result of any type of breeding program - they are just heifers with 4 legs and a tail. A lot of the guys selling them are looking for an easy way to run cattle - buy female calves/yearlings and run them with a bull hoping to double their money, don't have the hassle of calving cows that way.
                              It's a changing dynamic just now for sure and I would think there will be way less heifers retained for replacements this winter by opportunists looking to sell them as breds.

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                                #30
                                As a new entity, the cwb will be able to deal in any crop. So maybe the vote should have included all farmers, not just those with a cwb number.

                                Maybe that is why the government used their mandate instead of the cwb select voters list.

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