16 reasons to vote NDP

[grassfarmer]

Some food for thought in here.

http://medium.com/@travis.dg.benson/16-reasons-to-vote-for-the-ndp-even-if-you-dont-want-to-a25ff21b8a91?fbclid=IwAR3gXH6-DNzSaNrD_y4q4Lg8NZ3LUTOPcgxUdByRfKwLIqI_ABZZjK1P7n M http://https://medium.com/@travis.dg.benson/16-reasons-to-vote-for-the-ndp-even-if-you-dont-want-to-a25ff21b8a91?fbclid=IwAR3gXH6-DNzSaNrD_y4q4Lg8NZ3LUTOPcgxUdByRfKwLIqI_ABZZjK1P7n M

Times are changing - even in Alberta as a 4th generation rancher also runs for the NDP. Again some good points in here even if you don't agree with his choice of party.

http://www.producer.com/2019/04/alberta-rancher-defies-history-to-run-for-ndp/?source=sharetools&fbclid=IwAR0vxjLDmuD4AesQ-lE3Xp2trJuenpj_QS_zwMmvy-qfuHRe9uCogg3Twmk http://https://www.producer.com/2019/04/alberta-rancher-defies-history-to-run-for-ndp/?source=sharetools&fbclid=IwAR0vxjLDmuD4AesQ-lE3Xp2trJuenpj_QS_zwMmvy-qfuHRe9uCogg3Twmk

[seldomseen]

Haha that's so funny Mr. Grass farmer. I read all the 16 reasons and it is nothing more than socialist propaganda.

It is funny how the socialists like to call everyone they disagree with a Nazi when translated it was the National Socialist Party or The German Workers Party. Scratch a socialist and you find an Anti-Semite.

I don't think Jason Kenny is the very best candidate but would pick his party over the NDP any day!

[Hamloc]

Some food for thought in here.

http://medium.com/@travis.dg.benson/16-reasons-to-vote-for-the-ndp-even-if-you-dont-want-to-a25ff21b8a91?fbclid=IwAR3gXH6-DNzSaNrD_y4q4Lg8NZ3LUTOPcgxUdByRfKwLIqI_ABZZjK1P7n M http://https://medium.com/@travis.dg.benson/16-reasons-to-vote-for-the-ndp-even-if-you-dont-want-to-a25ff21b8a91?fbclid=IwAR3gXH6-DNzSaNrD_y4q4Lg8NZ3LUTOPcgxUdByRfKwLIqI_ABZZjK1P7n M

Times are changing - even in Alberta as a 4th generation rancher also runs for the NDP. Again some good points in here even if you don't agree with his choice of party.

http://www.producer.com/2019/04/alberta-rancher-defies-history-to-run-for-ndp/?source=sharetools&fbclid=IwAR0vxjLDmuD4AesQ-lE3Xp2trJuenpj_QS_zwMmvy-qfuHRe9uCogg3Twmk http://https://www.producer.com/2019/04/alberta-rancher-defies-history-to-run-for-ndp/?source=sharetools&fbclid=IwAR0vxjLDmuD4AesQ-lE3Xp2trJuenpj_QS_zwMmvy-qfuHRe9uCogg3Twmk

Grassfarmer you do amaze me sometimes. First off we do not pay among the lowest carbon tax in Canada. In fact we pay the second highest in Canada only excided by B.C. As for overtime if I understand the UCP policy correctly they are going to allow you to bank overtime hours or collect overtime if you wish. With seasonal jobs it would be beneficial to bank your hours to collect pay over a longer time period. When I have more time I will attempt to read it all. Looks like a lot of factually incorrect info to me.

[lesmt]

OMG, you scare me. Grew up and still live in Sakatchewan. Remember the days of Tommy Douglas. Allen Blakeney . Roy Romanow and all their policies to nationalize everything they touched. Be very careful what you wish for!

[jazz]

Thanks Grass, now my coffee is all over my keyboard.

But I will say this. Any party that ends corporate welfare with a pledge to be small business friendly and not break the bank would be worth a look.

[Hamloc]

Hmmm, the article states the conservatives spent the $11 billion dollar heritage fund. It's value in 2014 was $17.5 billion dollars, latest report I could find for 2018 put its value at $17.6 billion. Certainly obvious that the NDP has not added to the heritage fund but don't let facts get in the way of your outlook GF.

[jazz]

4 yrs ago Ab debt stood at $10b. By 2023 by the time Kenny can get a real handle on it, it will be 10 times that number. That's all on the NDP. They spent and taxed like drunken sailors when the economy tanked.

[Guest]

I will try to explain it grass , you see , anyone who lived the lost years in sask , can never go back to the NDP. it was unbelievable , as said on here , at eighteen , we all headed west . if you wanted to farm , you had to compete against land bank , who were paying a ridiculous price . all the land bank was then rented to devout ndpers for not much more than he taxes . it was a terrible time in sask when population was lost to the west . there was very little work unless you were an NDP and worked for the govt .
interestingly enough , I think Rachel has really learned a lot and is a very good stateswoman . she has learned that you need industry and wealth creation to fund social programs . she has also learned that Ottawa doesn't give a shit about the west and in fact hates and loathes us and that no amount of ass kissing will get her anywhere . it is truly a waste that she is leading that useless party . you had to grow up here in tge 70's&80's to understand how bad it was in sask

[AlbertaFarmer5]

I got stumped before I could think of 16 reasons.

1 you work for the government
2 you work in a union (which includes most of #1)
3 You don't work at all. (which is almost the same as #1, except without the pretext of pretending to be productive)
4 you are a bitter, disaffected ex pat Scottish beef farmer
5. You do whatever the NFU tells you to do
6 You are economically illiterate (see #1 and 5)
7. You are scientifically illiterate (see #1 and 5)
8 You are just completely illiterate
9 Your only connection to the outside world is the CBC.

[jazz]

Nobody can say they dislike Notley like they can about Trudeau, she just lacks experience in a functional economy. She didn't virtue signal like a fool or anything like that. But the tenets of capitalism are lost on her. I think she would make a great leader in another area like tourism or something like that. She should still have a place in the alberta story. So even though she ran the budget up and couldn't spot the drop in revenues coming in and adjust accordingly, I don't wish her any ill will.

During the NDP yrs in Sask, I first moved away from my home town because there was no future there farming or otherwise so dad sent me to the big city regina. Well after I got my degree finished, the NDP had gutted the entire province and had to move again to Calgary to find work.

[furrowtickler]

Most of the ambitious Young people were running out of this province under the NDP unless they were born into a union family ,you know the ones that bleed the rest of society.
The NDP here had zero vision for future growth in anything , it was 99% just union jobs . Jobs were every one is equal and even the lazy can get as good as pay as the ones who bust their ass. There was very little future here for those who wanted to do better in life . So the population was stagnant to even declining as all the progressive youth went to Alberta and B.C. .

So in short , one reason not to vote NDP .... give our kids a chance at decent life and not just a me too future .

[ajl]

What a pile of socialist dog crap. I only made it half way through and I was reminded why I am voting to fire the NDP. Will hold nose and vote for Kenny even though I would rather vote for the Freedom Conservatives or Alberta Independence. We are in a swing riding so my vote counts this time. One part of the article is true though, there is almost no private sector enterprise left in Canuckistan. The part about do you know anyone who works for the public sector or any contractors who depend on government contracts. The economy is 75% government in this country and that is why it is done.

[pgluca]

For Grass Farmer and all you NDP Voters,

Ask yourself is Rachel Notley just disingenuous or a plain fraud.



http://nationalpost.com/opinion/vivian-krause-rachel-notley-the-rockefellers-and-albertas-landlocked-oil/wcm/646e2c9a-5eef-4199-815a-b1733bd4f4c0

[Hamloc]

1. As far as LGBTQ, Jason Kenney has said he fully supports GSA's but that he believes that under certain circumstances parents have the right to know if their kids are in a GSA, something that is not allowed under Bill 24.

2. This same boogeyman was raised about the Harper government and no legislation was ever tabled to limit women's access to abortions.

3. First off no government has accumulated government debt as fast as the present NDP government. Would the Prentiss government run a deficit, no doubt in my mind. As far as the personal tax rate Jason Kenney has said the progressive rate will not be changed until the budget is balanced.

4. NDP massively cut government budgets? Is this person serious? Total spending has increased every year at higher than forecast rates. The electricity balancing pool now has over a $2 billion dollar deficit thanks to NDP mismanagement on this file. They just eliminated private drivers licence testing and it is now all government employees. Wait times are already 3 weeks and increasing. There is no doubt that the alleged kamikaze campaign with Jeff Calloway was a lapse in judgement but looking back at the leadership campaign I voted for who I thought was best suited to lead the party and don't remember what Jeff Calloway said having any influence.

5&6. Realistically most people I know working in the oil industry who still have jobs have taken large pay cuts and reduced hours. Public sector certainly not.

Will continue when time permits.

[grassfarmer]

So there does seem to be some grudging admiration of the job Notley has done with the hand she was dealt, even among posters here. As the fellow in the other link commented “I firmly believe that if Rachel Notley was a conservative male running this government, that we would all be talking about the best conservative government in a generation or two.”
I've never voted NDP and I don't agree with some of the things Notley has done but we've got to get past this idea that you can't elect a politician of X party because of what a politician of the same party did several decades ago in a different province. You've got to be able to look at their platforms and see what they are doing now and promising in the future. If any of you read the second link about the rancher running for the NDP you'd see he has been 10 years developing a program where landowners get paid for their carbon sequestering ag activities and has the AB Environment minister ready to act on it. Surely that is something most of you would support? but no it's the NDP they did something we didn't like in SK in the 70s.
Sheer obviously taps into this backward thinking vein to gain support but got caught in another whoopsie according to this: