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    #46
    Hay Chunky, how MUCH is the Liberal Mafia paying you to edumacate us poor dumb hillbillys bout AGW?

    Nothing like sexing up another scare story to sell ads, eh?

    OTOH, there are still reasonable, knowledgeable people like this guy.

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/03/the-media-is-100-wrong-about-this-aspect-of-the-latest-climate-change-report/


    Frankly, I'm shocked that the Media Party could possibly wrong about anything, he said sarcastically.
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      #47
      End of the day chuck ... read the first one I put up .... UN officials are quoted as saying this is about wealth redistribution... that's the point .
      You can go on and on and on .... well you do but call it what it is .
      Is the climate changing - yup
      Do humans partially cause it - debatable . Big industry sure does . But the problem is who pays who , what for and for what end result ??
      The wealthiest people on the planet are the ones who run the industries that cause the most pollution. These climate change tax's and policies will not cost them a single dime from their disposable income .... but for the average joe on Agriville and or the middle class consumer it could be dramatic .

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        #48
        So is it a myth those UN officials said what they did say as well ??? 🙄

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          #49
          Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
          And how do you propose to reduce the population? Freezing to death due to no fossil fuel energy for heating? Starving to death due to no fossil fuel energy for fertilizer or farm equipment? Or do you advocate more direct methods? And if so, how do you choose who?
          Inconvenient questions that likely won't be answered by climate alarmists.

          It will be interesting to see if some of these loons recommend the North Korea lifestyle to achieve their carbon footprint goals.....NK seems to win Earth Hour every year. 🙈

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            #50
            I wonder if Al Gore (et all ) will have to change their lifestyle to fight climate change ?
            Why not an enviro tax offshore holdings ?
            Tax lottery / casino winnings like they do in the US? Put that towards climate change and green energy?
            Put a larger tax on extreme luxury items that only the ultra rich spend on ?
            Why a carbon tax that will only negatively affect those who are already taxed to death ?
            If the proposed carbon tax goes through on fertilizer, it will be disastrous to western Canadian farmers already facing a huge disadvantage to most world Ag exporters .

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              #51
              One other idea is to have those Canadians listed in the Paradise papers be forced to move all money back to Canada and invest in green technologies here at home to spearhead climate change ? If it's such a great investment in our future why not ? ... lol my guess is that their attitude would change fairly quickly when it affects their pocket book directly.

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                #52
                Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                And how do you propose to reduce the population? Freezing to death due to no fossil fuel energy for heating? Starving to death due to no fossil fuel energy for fertilizer or farm equipment? Or do you advocate more direct methods? And if so, how do you choose who?
                The process to reduce population growth rates are to reduce the number of births. Natural deaths take care of the rest. Canada's birthrate in 2016 was 1.6. The rate at which a population can replace itself in Canada and the rest of the developed world is 2.1 children per woman of childbearing age.

                Immigration is where are population growth has come from. Immigration is as much an economic policy to make sure the economy keeps growing in low birth rate countries, otherwise a declining workforce and population will not be able to pay for all retirees who need income and healthcare. Especially the bulge of baby boomers.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                  End of the day chuck ... read the first one I put up .... UN officials are quoted as saying this is about wealth redistribution... that's the point .
                  You can go on and on and on .... well you do but call it what it is .
                  Is the climate changing - yup
                  Do humans partially cause it - debatable . Big industry sure does . But the problem is who pays who , what for and for what end result ??
                  The wealthiest people on the planet are the ones who run the industries that cause the most pollution. These climate change tax's and policies will not cost them a single dime from their disposable income .... but for the average joe on Agriville and or the middle class consumer it could be dramatic .

                  Lets make sure the Conservative and Liberals and NDP all work together to shut down tax avoidance schemes for wealthy Canadians and corporations that are costing us billions of dollars in lost tax revenue. That is a good starting point. Are you in agreement?

                  So you are hanging your hat on one quote from one official in the UN that this is a wealth redistribution program? Except for Iraq and the USA who are not part of the Paris accord every other country on earth has signed on. There are numerous scientific organizations around the world who are in agreement on the science including NASA. Is NASA a socialist organization in a socialist state? I don't think so but they are sounding the alarm on climate change!

                  In all my posts the only rebuttals to the science articles I post, come from Agrivillers who post from activist climate change denier scientists who work for or have connections to the fossil fuel industry. I wonder why? Is that a coincidence?

                  So even if it was a wealth redistribution plan and it isn't! You live in a developed country where income taxes which range up to 40 some percent or more of earned income plus all the other taxes that are used to provide roads, hospitals, defense, law and order, healthcare, education, subsidies to agriculture and businesses, seniors income support programs, and other social programs plus many more valuable and necessary programs which you use and benefit from and you are worried about a relatively small additional carbon tax that may be spent by provinces how they decide? In some cases they may lower income taxes and make it revenue neutral.

                  There area number of wealth transfer programs embedded in all the government programs many of which your family benefits from.

                  Many of these programs including taxing higher income earners more than lower income earners are a form of wealth transfer. This has been broadly supported by mainstream Conservative governments for decades.

                  I can list a lot more but health and education are really large transfers of wealth (services) from tax payers to the ill, seniors and children.

                  1. You don't believe in the science of human caused accelerated climate change.
                  2. You don't believe the oceans will rise flooding coastal cities which is already happening.
                  3. You don't believe that the glaciers are melting and retreating which they are. Visit the glaciers between Banff and Jasper to see it yourself. The signs clearly mark it out.
                  4. You don't believe there is a real threat and cost of climate change.
                  5. And it is all a big conspiracy to transfer wealth!

                  If this is what you believe then there is not much to discuss!
                  Last edited by chuckChuck; Nov 7, 2017, 17:11.

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                    #54
                    Chucky shouldn't you be doing your govt job instead of being a liberal troll on this site. Typical libtard .

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                      #55
                      I simply don't believe that carbon tax's will change a single thing other than drain already depleted income from the middle class . Is that so hard to understand? Or are you going to carry on with useless information on here ?

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                        I can list a lot more but health and education are really large transfers of wealth (services) from tax payers to the ill, seniors and children.

                        1. You don't believe in the science of human caused accelerated climate change.
                        2. You don't believe the oceans will rise flooding coastal cities which is already happening.
                        3. You don't believe that the glaciers are melting and retreating which they are. Visit the glaciers between Banff and Jasper to see it yourself. The signs clearly mark it out.
                        4. You don't believe there is a real threat and cost of climate change.
                        5. And it is all a big conspiracy to transfer wealth!

                        If this is what you believe then there is not much to discuss!
                        Why post here? You ignore any comments going after your bullshit and unproven economic theories.

                        To dispute all 5 points.

                        1.
                        No. Because I've worked in northern Alberta and seen fossilized palm tree leaves with my own eyes. If it was warm enough for palm trees north of ft Mac once it probably will be again.

                        2. Oh that'll happen. Maybe we shouldn't have built there... Those waters have never stayed the same.

                        3. Go read about Lake Agassiz. Glaciers once covered the entire prairies and most of Manitoba was under a lake. Proven science.


                        4. You can't change it. We need to adapt. Taxes don't adapt people. Environmental stressors do.

                        5. It is. Read Naomi Klein's book. Or the latest agenda bullcrap from the UN.

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                          #57
                          in Jamaica last year I asked a local 65 year old since you were a kid how much the ocean has risen in his time this was his answer " it has not " . wow that's surprisingly strange lol. this is how pathetic these climate retards are the say the glaciers and ice are going to flood everything meanwhile all fresh water rivers yes rivers run to the ocean every ****ing day!

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                            #58
                            "If this is what you believe then there is not much to discuss! "
                            Yes, apparently Chucky all of us, BUT YOU believe that, so please as one famous quote says..."SHUT THE F*CK UP"
                            It would be great not hear any more "facts/reasons" from your brainwashed mind...

                            Crops, commodities, marketing only...NO CLIMATE /CARBON BULLSHIT
                            Last edited by fjlip; Nov 7, 2017, 22:39.

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                              #59
                              Wow, nice to see there are a few intelligent individuals out there who don't dispel the science and understand that carbon taxes make sense as do green energy projects which are paid for with such taxes and it's also nice to finally have sensible governments both provincially and federally who lead by example given the morons we currently have to the south of us.

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                                #60
                                Interesting, looks like the data deniers needed to find some reinforcements. Not surprised, but regardless of how hard they try, they always end up with less.

                                Hey les, do you also share their sympathies with radical Muslims?

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