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    #16
    Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
    Change is hard to accept sometimes. The longer we resist the farther we re behind.
    I bet the people of cali and Ont wished they had resisted, they are so far ahead of us now, in unrepayable debt that is. And there green scams just forestalled the process of putting in real reliable energy now, so it will be rolling blackouts and brown outs and expensive bills until someone gets a clue.

    I am not blindly supporting any untested and risky technology just because CNN told me to.
    Last edited by jazz; Sep 17, 2020, 12:19.

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      #17
      blindly follow the sheep, do not question mein fuhrer
      wear a parachute , though

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        #18
        Funny, there’s been a pumped storage project proposed here for years that would do much the same except it would use the nuclear energy we pay the Americans to take at night and store it to replace much more expensive energy we buy in the day. The province seems to be happy with the idea but the feds are dragging their asses

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          #19
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          I bet the people of cali and Ont wished they had resisted, they are so far ahead of us now, in unrepayable debt that is. And there green scams just forestalled the process of putting in real reliable energy now, so it will be rolling blackouts and brown outs and expensive bills until someone gets a clue.

          I am not blindly supporting any untested and risky technology just because CNN told me to.
          Yeah but you support an incompetent moron for President so your judgement is crap! LOL

          And you must think Saskatchewan is bad too with its plan to have 50% renewables by 2030! Scott Moe and Sask Power just more green scammers! LOL

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            #20
            Originally posted by jazz View Post
            Why would people work so hard and so fruitlessly to replace the one thing that has propelled mankind to new heights. Makes no sense.

            Tesla will not work until a few single solar panels on homes works because the grid cannot feed electric vehicles without a major upgrade and its all underground in major cities. And a few solar panels will not work unless you live in Arizona. Chicken chasing egg.
            The experts have spoken.

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              #21
              Originally posted by tweety View Post
              The experts have spoken.
              You do know that I worked 10ys in the energy industry right, 5 of those were in the energy optimization dept of a major utility with a large footprint in NA.

              We looked at every energy scheme we could and 99% of them got tossed out on economics.

              So yeah, I know what I am talking about.

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                #22
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                Yeah but you support an incompetent moron for President so your judgement is crap! LOL
                Thats high praise coming from someone who worked for a organization actively trying to impoverish farmers for decades in the name of socialism. Some judgement there. Naomi Klein a friend of yours?

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by jazz View Post
                  You do know that I worked 10ys in the energy industry right, 5 of those were in the energy optimization dept of a major utility with a large footprint in NA.

                  We looked at every energy scheme we could and 99% of them got tossed out on economics.

                  So yeah, I know what I am talking about.
                  Yes, you also think Trump is a genius. Hopefully you're better at farming then energy and politics.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by jazz View Post
                    You do know that I worked 10ys in the energy industry right, 5 of those were in the energy optimization dept of a major utility with a large footprint in NA.

                    We looked at every energy scheme we could and 99% of them got tossed out on economics.

                    So yeah, I know what I am talking about.
                    So that was how long ago? 10,20,30 years? And technology and costs haven't changed since then? LOL

                    And how do you explain the change to more renewables in SK, ND, Great Britain, Australia, California, Germany, Denmark.........., the list is long.

                    The Australian operator we discussed a few weeks ago already said wind and solar are the cheapest generation sources now. She is on the ground making decisions based on current facts not based on outdated information.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      So that was how long ago? 10,20,30 years?
                      What field is your engineering degree in chuck? LMAO

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by tweety View Post
                        Yes, you also think Trump is a genius. Hopefully you're better at farming then energy and politics.
                        Tesla will ride a stock wave of misplaced enthusiasm and then be bought off and broken up by the majors.

                        Its overpriced cars and bogus solar schemes are just fodder for the green crowd. None of it is anywhere near to mainstream adoption.

                        But by all means keep hoping if that makes you feel better.

                        The world will still be powered by FF for at least the next decade until some nuke plants can get built. But since none have been permitted make that 25yrs.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by jazz View Post
                          What field is your engineering degree in chuck? LMAO
                          Wheat field.....duh.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
                            Wheat field.....duh.
                            Far, far, far left field.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by tweety View Post
                              The experts have spoken.
                              What is with all the plurals? Chuck refers to himself in the nomative plural of I. Tweety apparently thinks Jazz is a team.

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                                #30
                                Did anyone actually read the articles on this?
                                From what I could find, the smaller 730 MWh plant covers 4.5 acres.
                                Lifespan of 20 years. So, that is promising, battery technology must have progressed, because I don't know anyone with a 20 year old cordless tool, or cellphone still functioning on the original battery.
                                No cost estimate anywhere I could find.

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