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    #46
    Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
    AE: If oil companies are paying all the costs as you claim, why does Alberta have 3127 orphaned wells, 3186 orphaned pipeline segments, 1553 orphaned sites etc etc (2019 figures)? Who is going to pay for the cleanup of the 100,000 inactive wells in the province. AER estimated it will take $58.65 to remediate all of the unproductive wells in the province.

    And that does not include the land rental payments to farmers that oil companies have walked away from.
    This has more to do with poor gov't and lack of responsibility than it does with economics. If you could open a dump and fill that coulee right up and collect all the tippage fees over the years and then just sell it to an offshore shell company and walk away money in pocket, who wouldn't this might shock you but some people out there quite enjoy making money by screwing the system over.

    And yes it is a marketing topic, and it was awfully nice to some of my stocks this morning as well as my unsold CWRS .
    Last edited by mcfarms; Feb 16, 2021, 14:00.

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      #47
      Originally posted by caseih View Post
      Watched a video on how the power grid works
      It’s absolutely amazing and so many don’t understand it or appreciate it
      How these bird mincer/Chinese panel assholes think they can stuff their excess power into whenever it’s convenient for them and the grid needs to take their little virtue signalling bullshit and pay them for it is beyond me . There is NO STORAGE !!!
      Electricity that is hit and miss is a joke
      I wondered that, just can't dump generated amps in unlimited.

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        #48
        Originally posted by beaverdam View Post
        Solar activity has been dropping since it's peak during Solar Cycle #24 in Feb 2014.

        Predictions have been made that Solar Cycle #25 will be a Grand Solar Minimum, with NOAA's predicted sun spot forecast. NOAA forecasting sun spots won't rise to 2014 levels till,,, the year 2024.

        Get use to the cold, and crop growing problems,,, likely on going for the next 10 years.

        https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/predicted-sunspot-number-and-radio-flux https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/predicted-sunspot-number-and-radio-flux

        https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/09/05/global-cooling-noaa-confirms-full-blown-grand-solar-minimum/ https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/09/05/global-cooling-noaa-confirms-full-blown-grand-solar-minimum/
        And every Lieberal/left/Green Energy/Climate Change Scaring Nazi wants it COLDER!

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          #49
          maybe someone can explain the winter wheat crop in the southern states. Is there any of it actually growing and above ground at this time of the yr? Thats going to be a lot more damage than some winter kill.

          https://www.agriculture.com/markets/newswire/grains-wheat-at-one-week-high-as-freezing-us-weather-in-focus

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            #50
            Originally posted by fjlip View Post
            I wondered that, just can't dump generated amps in unlimited.
            https://youtu.be/v1BMWczn7JM https://youtu.be/v1BMWczn7JM

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                #52
                If you are willing to look at other possible reasons than just the failure of renewables for the power outages in Texas you should read the series of articles that the Washinton Post put out today. Start with https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/02/16/ercot-texas-electric-grid-failure/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/02/16/ercot-texas-electric-grid-failure/ . It is eye opening. And it actually admits some wind turbines froze up. But it makes the case that the biggest reason for the failures were the decline of the Texas electrical system and a failure to invest in infrastructure - similar to arguments made by posters here about the Saskatchewan power grid.

                Consider these statements from the article: "But wind accounts for just 10 percent of the power in Texas generated during the winter. And the loss of power to the grid caused by shutdowns of thermal power plants, primarily those relying on natural gas, dwarfed the dent caused by frozen wind turbines, by a factor of five or six."

                "In the single-digit temperatures, pipelines froze up because there was some moisture in the gas. Pumps slowed. Diesel engines to power the pumps refused to start. One power plant after another went offline. Even a reactor at one of the state’s two nuclear plants went dark, hobbled by frozen equipment."

                "In Texas, production of natural gas Tuesday fell 6 billion to 7 billion cubic feet per day from earlier in the month"

                Another view of Texas grid problems:
                https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/02/16/winter-storm-live-updates/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2021/02/16/winter-storm-live-updates/

                Texas Tribune article:
                https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/texas-wind-turbines-frozen/ https://www.texastribune.org/2021/02/16/texas-wind-turbines-frozen/
                Last edited by dmlfarmer; Feb 16, 2021, 23:23.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by fjlip View Post
                  I wondered that, just can't dump generated amps in unlimited.
                  No, but if you pay your neighbors enough, they will take them off your hands. That is how Germany does it, selling excess to Norway, and by selling, that means paying them to take the excess.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by dmlfarmer View Post
                    If you are willing to look at other possible reasons than just the failure of renewables for the power outages in Texas you should read the series of articles that the Washinton Post put out today. Start with https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/02/16/ercot-texas-electric-grid-failure/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/02/16/ercot-texas-electric-grid-failure/ . It is eye opening. And it actually admits some wind turbines froze up. But it makes the case that the biggest reason for the failures were the decline of the Texas electrical system and a failure to invest in infrastructure - similar to arguments made by posters here about the Saskatchewan power grid.

                    Consider these statements from the article: "But wind accounts for just 10 percent of the power in Texas generated during the winter. And the loss of power to the grid caused by shutdowns of thermal power plants, primarily those relying on natural gas, dwarfed the dent caused by frozen wind turbines, by a factor of five or six."

                    "In the single-digit temperatures, pipelines froze up because there was some moisture in the gas. Pumps slowed. Diesel engines to power the pumps refused to start. One power plant after another went offline. Even a reactor at one of the state’s two nuclear plants went dark, hobbled by frozen equipment."

                    "In Texas, production of natural gas Tuesday fell 6 billion to 7 billion cubic feet per day from earlier in the month"
                    Now just imagine, if instead of wasting billions fighting climate change, we had invested an equal amount in mitigation efforts for actual weather events that actually happen. Making our infrastrucure more reliable and secure. More back up, actually studying climate history and preparing for the extremes of all types which have been known to occur.

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                      #55
                      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                      No, but if you pay your neighbors enough, they will take them off your hands. That is how Germany does it, selling excess to Norway, and by selling, that means paying them to take the excess.
                      So having too much electricity is the problem? You have been telling us the opposite, that we wont have enough! Make up your mind.

                      Cant you just turn down some gas or other dispatchable sources when there are lots of renewable sources and ramp up the other sources when renewables are low? That's what system operators are designing their systems to do. I am assuming they have this figured out at the AESO in Alberta?

                      But don't let that stop you and your friends on Agrisilly blaming renewables every time the power goes out. Even on systems where there are hardly any renewables. LOL

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                        So having too much electricity is the problem? You have been telling us the opposite, that we wont have enough! Make up your mind.

                        Cant you just turn down some gas or other dispatchable sources when there are lots of renewable sources and ramp up the other sources when renewables are low? That's what system operators are designing their systems to do. I am assuming they have this figured out at the AESO in Alberta?

                        But don't let that stop you and your friends on Agrisilly blaming renewables every time the power goes out. Even on systems where there are hardly any renewables. LOL
                        INstead of making an ass of yourself in public on topics of which you have no knowledge, perhaps you would be better off doing some research first.
                        The situation described is exactly what is happening in Germany, amongst others. When the wind blows and the excess has to be dumped. Called load shedding. It is expensive.

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                          #57
                          But you live in Alberta. Is it a problem in Alberta? Nope

                          Do you have such little faith in engineers and system operators that they wont figure this out?

                          But I forget you are a negative "the cup is only half full" kind a guy!

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                            #58
                            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                            But you live in Alberta. Is it a problem in Alberta? Nope

                            Do you have such little faith in engineers and system operators that they wont figure this out?

                            But I forget you are a negative "the cup is only half full" kind a guy!
                            Do a little extrapolation. Increase the unreliable sources to the levels that our politicians are advocating, and do it in every jurisdiction. Now tell me how will anyone load shed to their neighbors, or how will they buy back the shortfall when everyone else is in the same situation? California hit that brick wall last year, with resulting black outs.

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                              #59
                              By the time this becomes a world wide issue there will be several storage options and lots EVs to charge.

                              In the mean time you keep telling us how bad renewables are.

                              The decision makers and system operators could care less about what you and I think! LOL

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                                By the time this becomes a world wide issue there will be several storage options and lots EVs to charge.

                                In the mean time you keep telling us how bad renewables are.

                                The decision makers and system operators could care less about what you and I think! LOL
                                Well, at least you got something right. The bureaucrats don't seem to care what their consumers think, or how much it costs them, or how many lives or livelihoods it costs. Are you aware of what is happening in the southern US right now?

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