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    Originally posted by Landdownunder View Post
    blinding freddy can see oils on shaky ground , real estate fall out seems to vary country to country
    Credit Suisse new lows… down as much as 25% this morning to 1.68… Saudi S said they would not put any more money in as at more than 10% equity big regulatory issues…

    The Fed has broken things… 2 month interest down to 4% … was well over 5% a week ago….

    Oil WTI down to $70/bbl this morning… canola still dropping… CDN $ dropping this morning…

    Interesting times!!!

    Cheers

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      I'm sure if the canola market or cattle market crashes all these government regulators will race in and bail us out too*********** P.S. cattle market was still hot yesterday in town from what we saw.

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        Multiple European bank stocks have halted trading.

        Thankfully, Cdn banks aren’t involved in any of this mess (according to Bloomberg). Har!

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          World govts printed up $30T to save us from an invisible bug that turned out to be a cold. You think they are going to let banks fail.

          A few will, just like in 2008, but massive bailouts are in the planning and a halt to all interest rate increases, with QE around the corner.

          Mass insolvency or inflation, pick your poison. One of them involves a pretty angry populace overrunning the system.

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            Hey, Gold is up $21 to $1925

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              Originally posted by jazz View Post
              World govts printed up $30T to save us from an invisible bug that turned out to be a cold. You think they are going to let banks fail.

              A few will, just like in 2008, but massive bailouts are in the planning and a halt to all interest rate increases, with QE around the corner.

              Mass insolvency or inflation, pick your poison. One of them involves a pretty angry populace overrunning the system.
              Unless we think this is the time they are going to finally quit kicking the can, and let it all crash and burn, then it is safe to assume that this brief adventure into sound monetary policy is already over, and we will be back to the regularly scheduled program of QE, artificially low interest rates, helicopter money, bailouts etc.

              As Jazz points out, one way results in angry mobs immediately, the other is a slow boil which the populace will tolerate, and even get governments reelected.

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                The can can be kicked no further. What we are witnessing in real time will make the 2008 financial crisis look like a dress rehearsal. Get woke go broke, Western financial institutions are in big trouble.

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                  Originally posted by biglentil View Post
                  The can can be kicked no further.
                  I think we have heard that before. Someday it will definitely be true. But betting on that has been losing proposition for a long time.

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                    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                    I think we have heard that before. Someday it will definitely be true. But betting on that has been losing proposition for a long time.
                    Rather be a year or two early than a second late.

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                      Originally posted by biglentil View Post
                      Rather be a year or two early than a second late.
                      Absolutely true. The trouble is, how many people have been a decade or three or more early for the inevitable collapse.

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                        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                        Absolutely true. The trouble is, how many people have been a decade or three or more early for the inevitable collapse.
                        Or rise.

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                          Bought all the oil and bank stocks I could today.

                          The US extended the system after the gold window closed back in 1971 and thats gone for 50 yrs. Imagine we have a ways to go yet.

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                            Some buyers accumulated lots of tonnes here in Nov then vanished until early Feb.

                            Reputable buyers.

                            They just couldnt access any more capitol until there first boat sailed.

                            Wondering if current situiation is going to put a credit crunch on traders and those who buy of the traders.

                            Many farmers thing traders have unlimted funds well they havent especially the smaller exporters that might on do 2 or 3 shared vessels

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                              Whats another $2tn among friends.

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                                Originally posted by jazz View Post
                                Whats another $2tn among friends.

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                                Is that not QE?

                                Everybody pays as prices vo up and savings loose value.


                                Wages will be next.

                                Treudau is floating a balloon on big handouts in the new budget.
                                Last edited by shtferbrains; Mar 16, 2023, 07:37.

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