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    #31
    Originally posted by Retired View Post
    How about our 30.9 billion (and probably climbing) cost to finish our 6 billion dollar trans mountain pipeline . 500% over budget. There is where there should be an inquiry.
    Whaat? I thought Alberta wanted more pipelines and that Trudeau killed the oil industry! LOL

    The oil industry he "killed" is raking in massive profits worldwide and in Canada and the wealth is being transferred from consumers to the oil industry.

    The TMX was a bad investment. The oil industry should pay for their own pipelines.

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      #32
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      Whaat? I thought Alberta wanted more pipelines and that Trudeau killed the oil industry! LOL

      The oil industry he "killed" is raking in massive profits worldwide and in Canada and the wealth is being transferred from consumers to the oil industry.

      The TMX was a bad investment. The oil industry should pay for their own pipelines.
      Yes but you know why Kinder Morgan walked on the project. Still a terrible idea for Trudeau to go all balls in on such a project. Talking with guys in on the project it is not the most efficiently allocated project so no wonder it’s so over budget. Any time governments are directly in control of business you know it will go that way. Far as resource revenues I’m with you on the people should have a fair share of it. Guess the question I pose you is what is fair for everyone which encourages companies to take the risk? You are anti hydrocarbons and spare me your ***$ing rhetoric. I’m talking about everything like metals etc. I’ve wondered if these resources are value added here that the companies are treated more favourably in royalty structures vs it being shipped out raw. Same with renewable producers if they turn profits irrespective of government subsidies and tax breaks what is fair as compensation for their impact? Abject corporate welfare or government choosing winners and losers is gross and all government is guilty of it.

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        #33
        It's good to see Chuck back.
        Every group needs a Chuck .
        Stands by his convictions and is always willing to come back no matter how many times he gets shot down.

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        Never quits trying.
        Last edited by shtferbrains; Mar 12, 2023, 10:43.

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          #34
          Oil companies give a $20 billion dollar handout to Quebec? Wholly crap you don't know anything!

          That pretty much sums up Jazz's knowledge of most subjects. LOL

          Equalization is a federal program paid for by federal taxes collected in all provinces not just Alberta. Alberta does not pay anything to any other provinces.

          Alberta does pay a lot of federal taxes at the same rate as every other Canadian or corporation only because they have the highest wages and highest per capita GDP in the country because the oil industry is super profitable and very large in Alberta. It sucks to be rich and well off and pay a lot of taxes. Poor Alberta!

          Alberta has the largest per capita fiscal capacity. Manitoba, Quebec, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, PEI, and Ontario will all receive equalization in 2023 because their fiscal capacity is lower than Alberta's, Saskatchewan, BC, and Newfoundland. All provinces endowed with significant oil reserves and other profitable resources.

          "Equalization ensures that provincial governments have sufficient revenues to provide reasonably comparable levels of public services at reasonably comparable levels of taxation".

          Crypto Polly is not running on ending the equalization program. He may tweek it like Harpo did, but he will never get rid of it.

          But don't let that stop you from spreading lies and misinformation about a federal program that is not based on Alberta paying other provinces!
          Last edited by chuckChuck; Mar 14, 2023, 07:50.

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            #35
            Equalization ensured the success of the CWB.

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              #36
              Good one BP, you still obsessed with an issue that is long over? It's time to move on but I know the farmers for just us have a hard time moving forward and are stuck in the past.

              If it was or is so bad how come Harper didn't get rid of equalization along with the CWB?
              Last edited by chuckChuck; Mar 14, 2023, 07:49.

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                #37
                diminished fiscal capacity is just another term for welfare.

                When was the last time PEI sent any money anywhere. They have half the population as Regina does and the same number of seats.

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                  #38
                  We are stuck trying to balance population and area without a senate. That's what you get.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    Good one BP, you still obsessed with an issue that is long over? It's time to move on but I know the farmer for just us have a hard time moving forward and are stuck in the past.

                    If it was or is so bad how come Harper didn't get rid of equalization along with the CWB?
                    I was using a historical example of the economic pitfalls of socialism. Your answer indicates obsession.
                    One simplified answer to your question is Quebec.

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