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    Perma-damage to U.S. Ag?

    Stirring-the-pot, but No NAFTA, No China, Japan trade sparring . . . the list goes on.

    Has the U.S. trade fallout now done permanent trade damage to their ag industry?

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    Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
    Stirring-the-pot, but No NAFTA, No China, Japan trade sparring . . . the list goes on.

    Has the U.S. trade fallout now done permanent trade damage to their ag industry?
    On the export side, time will tell. They have always been the keepers of the last kernels. Domestically they are a powerhouse that just makes shit happen. I wouldn't be surprised if plan B is, you like to grow corn? Let's go to E-15 or 20 and shift those bean acres back to corn. When these guys decide to move mountains, anything is possible. Hell, at least the general population stands behind them. Their innovation is never to be underestimated. US ag is listened to, mostly on political structure but they have their lobbyists as well, sugar is king on lobby. They still have the biodiesel card.

    Edit..... are you "Top picking" Errol? Lol
    Last edited by macdon02; Sep 10, 2018, 22:35.

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      #3
      Something that gets overlooked is if trump actually destroys other economies who do they sell to other than domestic?

      It's like us wishing china a financial collapse say good bye canola barley etc etc.

      So if the squirrel is successful in his strategy they will be screwed.

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        #4
        China reportedly asking approval from the WTO to impose sanctions on the U.S. . . . . breaking news.

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          #5
          Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
          China reportedly asking approval from the WTO to impose sanctions on the U.S. . . . . breaking news.
          So that means if they can't beat them one on one the strategy is to gang up on them? They want allies to wage an economic war on the U.S. with them. How will this all end for individual countries...even without alliance's being formed.

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            #6
            Originally posted by the big wheel View Post
            Something that gets overlooked is if trump actually destroys other economies who do they sell to other than domestic?

            It's like us wishing china a financial collapse say good bye canola barley etc etc.

            So if the squirrel is successful in his strategy they will be screwed.
            World trade for decades has been about selling more into the US market and not importing anything so in that type of environment the US might as well have a tariff. China is collapsing so your second comment is being lived right now. Americans have stopped caring about what those who hate them think and rightly so,

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              #7
              DX appears to have hit resistance, a setback here would soften the blow on exports. Just because a tarrif is in place doesn't mean exports are dead. Any currency setback and i expect US origin will start looking appealing.

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                #8
                In a little over 50 days, the lame duck dumpster fire will have been put out. Just hope the American population considers him to be too much of a disruption.

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                  #9
                  US Ag these days seems to be on an unstoppable roll these days. Production of everything is going up. Not just corn, beans, and wheat but stuff like green peas, green lentils and chickpeas too not to mention dairy. Pretty much everything finds a market eventually. Americans just like to win and so far so good.

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                    #10
                    Buyers are shrewd

                    They have professional designations, well educated, very good salaries, and bonus programs that don’t quite match Mayo.

                    Lowest price is the law! Yes there is value, quality, politics etc

                    The USAa will re-emerge any time they want. They have taxpayers and export subsidy programming, better than the CWB😬

                    They will increase ethanol mandate!

                    The USA wants to be a self contained economy not so reliant on outsiders.

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                      #11
                      Seems to me that a lot of this trade war is just another tax grab from consumers.
                      Trump says “ Hey J T, lets talk tough on trade and then punitive taxes and we both collect”. So far report is Canada has collected an extra 300 million and so we consumers will pay.

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                        #12
                        somethin changed years 15-18 years ,ago to improve the lot of ag around the world.
                        why we are now at 3-500,000 a quarter.

                        before was constant oversupply . EU and US subsides .

                        it just seems it improved when the US started making all that ethanol with corn.
                        maybe that is not it, maybe just a coincidence .

                        the other factor probably bigger , is the billions in the third world
                        finally having a Nickle to go from almost starving , to eating better.

                        technology and a little education , and all the manufacturing jobs
                        making , phones , runners , clothes , machinery.

                        china used to have starvation , when I was a kid.

                        in grade 5 the earth had 3 billion people , now we have 7 billion.
                        and most of the 7 billion now have at least some money for food

                        US AG might have temporary hurt, that will be it .

                        with luck
                        this Trump nonsense, this bad dream will be over sooner than later

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                          #13
                          U.S. apparently now inviting China back to the trade negotiation table . . .

                          U.S. business starting to howl about detrimental impact of Trump tariffs on American economy. And with November mid-terms fast approaching . . . .

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by errolanderson View Post
                            U.S. apparently now inviting China back to the trade negotiation table . . .

                            U.S. business starting to howl about detrimental impact of Trump tariffs on American economy. And with November mid-terms fast approaching . . . .
                            China needs to drag their feet.

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                              #15
                              Trump is about competitive advantage and leverage to get his way.

                              We will see how important the midterm elections are to him, Nafta included

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