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    #16
    https://globalnews.ca/news/4350910/trade-tribunal-steel-dumping-ruling/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    They are dumping into Canada, we've recognized it. Im guessing there's some Liberal funding at risk?

    There's a ton of damning articles from Canadian sources in this thread


    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1291815300116156423.html

    And China has a very ambitious plan for Canada and the Arctic regarding mineral acquisition.



    prism.ucalgary.ca/bitstream/hand…



    Included in these agreements for China to purchase our mineral and refining interests in A&S and its support industries like coal and energy, is a stipulation that China can import its workers here to work the mineral mines and refining and manufacturing.


    The question becomes, did the Govt of Canada buy a pipeline for Canadian oil companies or Chinese?
    Last edited by macdon02; Aug 9, 2020, 16:23.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
      Sometimes what you have to say astounds me Chuck. First off I believe there only 4 provinces that were have provinces before Covid 19, all are certainly have not now. As for the diversification of the various provinces this Economic overview: www.wd-deco.gc.ca/eng/243.asp. This compares the 4 western provinces. I do appreciate you contributions though as all it does is reinforce my own beliefs and helps insure I will never vote NDP and constantly reminds me why I despise the political outlook of those on the left side of the political spectrum!
      It astounds you because you don't think like a socialist/marxist. Dragging the most successful down to the level of the least successful is the goal. That is the reason Chuck is revelling in the news that Alberta is now a have not province. Easier to be jealous of anyone willing to work hard, and try to take it away, than to apply the ambition to do it yourself. This applies within families, provinces, countries etc.

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        #18
        I suppose the least fractious way to redistribute wealth equally, is to simply stop making it. We're going to see how that works.

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          #19
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          I have never voted Liberal.

          Its all "just politics" as Doug Ford said.

          Almost all of the Conservative premiers across Canada have stopped playing politics and are cooperating and asking for economic relief

          For the first time in many years because of the drop in the world oil price, Alberta is getting more Federal taxpayers money than they are paying into the Federal government! Alberta a have not province? How could this happen? Over reliance on a single volatile commodity perhaps? LOL
          Chuck you didn’t respond to my last question on this maybe you will respond to this question. I was just reading that Ontario is projecting a $38.5 billion dollar deficit up from $15 billion. You seem quite happy that Alberta is a have not province and insinuated that our turn in financial fortunes was due to an over reliance on oil. What has caused an over doubling of Ontario’s projected deficit? Is their economy not diversified enough?!

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            #20
            Would it have anything to do with the covid economic crisis, high unemployment, falling revenues, and increased support payments?

            Why not read the Ontario budget to find out? Doug Ford should have the answers you are looking for.

            Hamloc you have said Alberta should have a provincial sales tax to stabilize revenues and get away from using resource revenues for core funding. Correct?

            As I pointed out many moons ago there was an article in the Glabe and Mail that said if Alberta used Saskatchewan's tax rates and system, prior to Covid, Alberta would have had a $14 billion dollar surplus instead of a deficit.

            Life is really good in Saskatchewan. We have a lot of resources and a strong agriculture sector. Saskatchewan tax rates are reasonable. Many people are well off and prosperous. So why is Alberta so intent on very low taxes and unstable provincial funding based on the yo yo resource sector? Please explain.

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              #21
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              Would it have anything to do with the covid economic crisis, high unemployment, falling revenues, and increased support payments?

              Why not read the Ontario budget to find out? Doug Ford should have the answers you are looking for.

              Hamloc you have said Alberta should have a provincial sales tax to stabilize revenues and get away from using resource revenues for core funding. Correct?

              As I pointed out many moons ago there was an article in the Glabe and Mail that said if Alberta used Saskatchewan's tax rates and system, prior to Covid, Alberta would have had a $14 billion dollar surplus instead of a deficit.

              Life is really good in Saskatchewan. We have a lot of resources and a strong agriculture sector. Saskatchewan tax rates are reasonable. Many people are well off and prosperous. So why is Alberta so intent on very low taxes and unstable provincial funding based on the yo yo resource sector? Please explain.
              Your first sentence certainly applies to Alberta and to Ontario. Should Alberta have a sales tax? I have said in the past that Alberta should have a sales tax and I still think Alberta should. You of course do realize that Ontario has a provincial sales tax and this has not fixed Ontario’s deficit financing problem!!! Is that because Ontario’s economy is not diversified enough?
              Last edited by Hamloc; Aug 13, 2020, 07:45.

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                #22
                I am not sure why Ontario is in such trouble. Look at their budgets, tax rates and spending. It's all there.

                Alberta on the other had has had incredible fiscal capacity untill recently. But have chose not to have a sensible sustainable tax system. The highest incomes and GDP in the country and everyone wants a very low tax bill to boot which makes no sense if you are planning for the future or trying to save some onetime resource revenues for a rainy day and future generations.

                Life is good in Saskatchewan. What is so wrong in Alberta? Do they think Saskatchewan residents are all socialists! LOL

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