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    #16
    In saskatchewan ...it would have made more sense to build hydro than the 2 natural gas plants...

    Two reasons....1. Its a cascading effect through the Saskatchewan river system.
    2. Another reservoir would or will be essential if all the climate facts come true.

    For guys that believe in climate change it sure seems odd they would be against ensuring water is available.

    Try to build another dam today....impossible because of all the people that are environmentalists.

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      #17
      The really only sustainable sources of energy in the future to curb greenhouse gases are hydro and nuclear. We need governments to step up to the plate and start the process soon. Wind and solar are not a replacement for other forms of energy but can produce when the sun shines and wind blows and allow us to consume less other forms of energy. On a day like today at 36C wind and solar will produce nothing and yet these are the peak days for electricity. If the greenies don’t want hydro than they will have to embrace nuclear, as it lol be the clear choice for curbing greenhouse gases.

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        #18
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        We should really have more interconnections between provincial grids going east west in Canada instead of north south. Then Saskatchewan and Alberta could green up some of their electricity supply with more hydro imports.

        But provincial politicians prefer to invest in province to create more jobs from the resources at hand. Hydro imports send money out of the provincial economy. This is understandable from a political point of view. But with a major focus on a low carbon energy future increasing hydro imports make more sense.
        Or with the West's uranium, we build nuclear plants and SELL the extra power.
        Trading wheat for stipends with the East getting old. Let someone else pay for the geographical expense if needed.

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          #19
          Originally posted by bucket View Post
          In saskatchewan ...it would have made more sense to build hydro than the 2 natural gas plants...

          Two reasons....1. Its a cascading effect through the Saskatchewan river system.
          2. Another reservoir would or will be essential if all the climate facts come true.

          For guys that believe in climate change it sure seems odd they would be against ensuring water is available.

          Try to build another dam today....impossible because of all the people that are environmentalists.
          Nothing passes the green sniff test.
          Nothing will get built until it's desperately obvious. And then not in the West. Natural Gas okay because its invisible. Just like the people who live out here.

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            #20
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            We should really have more interconnections between provincial grids going east west in Canada instead of north south. Then Saskatchewan and Alberta could green up some of their electricity supply with more hydro imports.

            But provincial politicians prefer to invest in province to create more jobs from the resources at hand. Hydro imports send money out of the provincial economy. This is understandable from a political point of view. But with a major focus on a low carbon energy future increasing hydro imports make more sense.
            As I was saying in another thread, it is impossible to have any rational discussion that involves mathematics, or physical priniciples with these type of people. They truly seem to believe that the laws of physics are mere suggestions, and that they can be bent at will to accommodate their utopian vision.

            Are you in anyway aware of the physical constraints of transmitting electricity from say Quebec to Alberta? Let alone the costs, and cost in losses, and the environmental pushback that would result from every NIMBY and watermelon, extortionist native group and pretend environmenalist blocking it every step of the way.

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              #21
              Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
              Are you in anyway aware of the physical constraints of transmitting electricity from say Quebec to Alberta? Let alone the costs, and cost in losses, and the environmental pushback that would result from every NIMBY and watermelon, extortionist native group and pretend environmenalist blocking it every step of the way.
              We have a ROW connecting the country already, Transcanadas pipeline is in it. CN is in the other one. Goes all the way to Montreal and through northern Ontario.

              Its the easiest ROW to simply expand. Make a deal with Quebec and Ontario, oil, gas, LNG and eventually hydrogen goes east, hydro comes back.

              But that would be too logical thinking for a country that can barely call itself that.

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                #22
                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                Canada already has a very large amount of hydro capacity.

                https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/science-data/data-analysis/energy-data-analysis/energy-facts/electricity-facts/20068 https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/science-data/data-analysis/energy-data-analysis/energy-facts/electricity-facts/20068

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                So is that a reason to not have more? Seems to be a better, more economical, greener “storage” of power than some battery...............

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                  #23
                  Hydro will give us a supply of water for irrigation insulating us from the worst effects of global warming.

                  Make us much more attractive to join USA if anything left there.

                  Bucket can do the promo for that as he is familiar with the huge benefit.

                  Make Saskatchewan California Again.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    Hamloc was surprisingly quiet a few weeks ago when wind was rocking in the chinook with lots of mega watts.

                    He's just like oneoff who intentionally waits till December when solar production is low to make a challenge between grid tied solar and grid tied flare gas. LOL

                    We all know wind and solar are intermittent. So to analyse their contributions to reducing fossil energy sources you need to look at longer periods of production than just a few days. A year is good. You also need to recognize that wind and solar generation costs per Mwh are now cheaper than coal or gas according to the AESO.

                    Apparently Alberta is phasing out coal and adding a lot of wind and solar with natural gas that will cover all your needs.

                    The AESO says it will work, so you don't have to worry about freezing in the dark after all! LOL
                    Exactly the answer I expected. So during the period your referring to wind power efficiency got as high as 85%. Power draw was roughly 9600 megawatts instead of over 10800 this morning due to warmer weather. Every environmentalist says that battery power will be the solution and make all other energy sources redundant compared to renewables with battery back up. So Chuck2 here is a simple question where is there a jurisdiction where batteries can power the province, state or country for days on end with very little to no renewable production to recharge them?!?!

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                      Exactly the answer I expected. So during the period your referring to wind power efficiency got as high as 85%.
                      hamloc we have some virtue signalers here in Regina with rooftop solar.

                      The freezing rain put a 1/4 of ice on them last week and then the hurricane drove freezing sleet then snow right on top of them which is now stuck for the winter. And nobody has bothered to climb up there and sc**** them clean. Dont even want to hire some of those good paying green jobs to climb up there and do it for them.

                      So solar power equals zero for them for the rest of the season.

                      Putting critical infrastructure in the path of canadian weather is just about the stupidest thing you could ever do. Thats why they spent a decade burying rural power and running gas in - one of the smartest programs ever.

                      There is no place in Canada safe from the weather. Every corner has experienced a recent disaster. Remember Quebec's ice storm?

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                        #26
                        What would be wrong with smaller hydro projects, why do they have to be massive. These wind,solar projects only serve small areas at best. Some off our regular dams are getting long at the tooth on some off our lakes whynot replace them with dams with smaller generators to enhance the GRID.

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                          #27
                          By the way -30 this morn and not a breath of wind or sunshine, hydro meter spinning like a top!!!

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                            #28
                            "where is there a jurisdiction where batteries can power the province, state or country for days on end with very little to no renewable production to recharge them?!?!"

                            In GREEN dreamville, BS Country.

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                              #29
                              There is a new wind farm proposed for Vulcan county near the village of Lomond. It will consist of 83 turbines spread over 17500 acres. It will cost $500 million to build and have a capacity of 514 megawatts. It will be built by a company from Germany. Their is an existing wind farm in Vulcan county called Blackspring ridge with a capacity of 300 megawatts, when I looked this morning it was producing 1 megawatt. We are on day 4 of low wind production, I am still perplexed as to how batteries charged by renewables are the answer. First off you have to have enough production to meet demand and then you need excess production to charge the batteries. In the last 4 days we have had neither. We could have 5 times as many wind turbines in Alberta this morning and they would only satisfy 12% of the demand never mind having excess power to charge batteries, fml!!

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                                There is a new wind farm proposed for Vulcan county near the village of Lomond. It will consist of 83 turbines spread over 17500 acres. It will cost $500 million to build and have a capacity of 514 megawatts. It will be built by a company from Germany. Their is an existing wind farm in Vulcan county called Blackspring ridge with a capacity of 300 megawatts, when I looked this morning it was producing 1 megawatt. We are on day 4 of low wind production, I am still perplexed as to how batteries charged by renewables are the answer. First off you have to have enough production to meet demand and then you need excess production to charge the batteries. In the last 4 days we have had neither. We could have 5 times as many wind turbines in Alberta this morning and they would only satisfy 12% of the demand never mind having excess power to charge batteries, fml!!

                                Is this the one that will be decommissioned in 2048?????

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