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Originally posted by jazz View PostPlease point out any other major export infrastructure projects close to being realized in this country?
Its world altering for this country and yes having any choice in marketing is always a positive. I dont think any one involved in export activities would say less places to offshore our resources is better. You saw what happened when last winter when activist blocked the few locations we had. They wont be blocking anything in Alaska. Port workers wont be striking either.
And maybe the greenies in lower mainland BC might notice when their port revenues start dwindling.
A full 20% of our GDP is in the ag, mining, forestry and energy sectors and related activities and this project gives those resources a big boost.
Feasibly oil and mining companies can expand on their facilities there, but what’s up there to really boost grain exports. Load them straight into container trains, sure, but you think your terminals are picky now, wait until they need to meet specs for a container ship with no real port facility.
As for protests... 3/4 of that line is in Canada. That’s a lot of area that could be blocked. Without bringing in the fact that, to get grain to Edmonton from the inland terminals you’re still using CN and CP lines (and cars) and are still dependent on their ability to move cars.
Yes another line will be helpful, but more so for oil. Especially as it looks to go straight to Ft Mac. This is an alternative to the pipeline west. It’s boost for ag will be minimal with the possible exception of the northern terminals.
After all, there’s nothing stopping the trains from going to the lower 48 and shipping out of ports there, other than the pain in the ass factor. How often do you hear about trains shipping stateside to get on a boat. Why not?
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Originally posted by farmaholic View PostEvery farm should run with the bare minimum equipment, only one tractor, etc.
See how efficient we become.
We have Railway crossings we can barely drive across....suppose that's our fault too. Right of ways that were sterilized now nothing but Canada thistles, absinthe and everything else but grass growing.
FÚCKING STUPID.
Zero pride.
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Originally posted by Blaithin View PostSo you think companies like G3 and P&H who have new ports opened in BC this year, are going to invest in port facilities in Anchorage?
Feasibly oil and mining companies can expand on their facilities there, but what’s up there to really boost grain exports. Load them straight into container trains, sure, but you think your terminals are picky now, wait until they need to meet specs for a container ship with no real port facility.
As for protests... 3/4 of that line is in Canada. That’s a lot of area that could be blocked. Without bringing in the fact that, to get grain to Edmonton from the inland terminals you’re still using CN and CP lines (and cars) and are still dependent on their ability to move cars.
Yes another line will be helpful, but more so for oil. Especially as it looks to go straight to Ft Mac. This is an alternative to the pipeline west. It’s boost for ag will be minimal with the possible exception of the northern terminals.
After all, there’s nothing stopping the trains from going to the lower 48 and shipping out of ports there, other than the pain in the ass factor. How often do you hear about trains shipping stateside to get on a boat. Why not?
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Originally posted by MBgrower View PostUS port capacities usually booked up, CN / CP usually not all that friendly to send too many trains down south, switching lines / turn around time, etc, Pioneer, Cargill, VIT, PH, G3 etc want to ship grain to their terminals where the blending and elevation is earned.
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Originally posted by MBgrower View Posti hope someone was fired over that, thistles 6' tall all along the lines, white fluff like a snow storm on the major highway next to the rail line.
I talked to our Municipal Administrator about contacting other RMs that is sterilized CN right of way is in.
This is the same RailCo that was causing the RM legal grief when they sent a train down the tracks without cleaning the crossing out of packed ice, snow and gravel, it derailed. Probably tried to blame the RM's cleaning procedure.
So you can imagine the strained relationship.
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Originally posted by MBgrower View PostUS port capacities usually booked up, CN / CP usually not all that friendly to send too many trains down south, switching lines / turn around time, etc, Pioneer, Cargill, VIT, PH, G3 etc want to ship grain to their terminals where the blending and elevation is earned.
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Originally posted by farmaholic View PostLocal Richardson, not.on my home town rail line, donated something like $15,000 to my community's rink.
How about all us other guys have to truck 60 miles or more now with nothing local? That was supposed to be such a benefit now only certain terminals buy 1 wheat you have to beg them to buy 1 for 2 price just to get rid of the shit. Lmao
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Originally posted by Blaithin View PostI only disparage your blind devotion to Trump. I have nothing against an additional rail line, however you do seem to have unrealistically high expectations of how it might improve things in Canada.
Looking at the current state of rail lines and companies within the country, while this has potential, it’s hardly world altering.
Also, just in case you failed to notice, we are already connected to the greater trading world. This line wouldn’t give us access to anything new. Or perhaps you think access to a port that isn’t even in the country will be much easier and more beneficial than using ports within the country. This could be a trial run for Wexiteers to see what exporting to a port would really entail.
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Maybe they will have dedicated trains to move water to L.A. ?😊
And most importantly, there can be a ton of snow, and it can get below -25 C where reliability and safety can be questioned.
I think it’s a great move for everyone. Won’t be the last project that governments co-operate on (the great split?)
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Originally posted by Blaithin View PostExactly. So how is a port in Alaska going to be that much different? They want to send the grain to their port terminals where they can blend and clean it. They aren’t going to piss around with a far north container port that has them hobbled on handling and specs.
A private consortium owns churchill port and it gets grain now again.
As we have seen with CWB, monopolies can be broken with legislation.
I imagine that rail would have huge tourism opportunities as well. Makes more sense than a hyperloop between Calgary and Edmonton.Last edited by jazz; Sep 26, 2020, 19:48.
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