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    USA situation virus?

    So now we have all had some time to see things unfold although to me just about as many questions as before since politics has been used to skew both sides version of how dangerous this is.

    Major views are it’s dangerous but we can’t let it stop us financially,
    It’s not dangerous, it’s dangerous so stay at home. It’s dangerous but use common sense and it won’t be bad.

    The USA openned up earlier than us and now major spikes in infections Texas for example hospitals at near capacity and cases rising so what’s everyone’s prediction? Realize predictions are based on what is known today and actions taken by governments change daily but if this stays the course with the USA basically openned up how bad or not will this get?

    #2
    Herd Immunity or Vaccine.....

    Until either is achieved, it will linger and lurk for a while with the risk of high infection rate.

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      #3
      I predict it will magically disappear after the election.

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        #4
        Originally posted by jazz View Post
        I predict it will magically disappear after the election.
        It won't but the hysteria might.

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          #5
          Originally posted by jazz View Post
          I predict it will magically disappear after the election.
          The u.s. election will be decided on which party can get people to vote more than once due to the fact that they are pushing for voting without presenting any form of identification, or maybe this has been implemented already,and mail in ballots going to be an absolute joke in fraudulent voting as well. What is wrong with providing identification when casting a ballot just to make it that much harder to vote multiple times at multiple locations. Mail in ballots will be harvested from the elderly or outright purchased from people who don't care and will sell to whoever comes along. Not to mention how many people that are incapacitated or dead that will be voting.

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            #6
            Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
            Herd Immunity or Vaccine.....

            Until either is achieved, it will linger and lurk for a while with the risk of high infection rate.
            Didn’t think anyone seems to get immunity from having it. Seems to be quite a few who get it again.

            Which would make a vaccine harder.

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              #7
              Originally posted by jazz View Post
              I predict it will magically disappear after the election.
              Like Trump we hope! Get your Bud Light ready there Jazz!

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                #8
                Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                Didn’t think anyone seems to get immunity from having it. Seems to be quite a few who get it again.

                Which would make a vaccine harder.
                Then we have a real problem.

                The world's new "smallpox" crisis. Beatable only by selective-immunity survival?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by burnt View Post
                  Then we have a real problem.

                  The world's new "smallpox" crisis. Beatable only by selective-immunity survival?
                  Not so bad if that fabled .026% mortality rate rings true. But would that apply to all infections or just the first? Would people be more or less likely to die on second (or third or fourth) rounds with the virus.

                  Either way, the average lifespan might be dropping like a rock. No need to have retirement savings that’ll last 20+ years at least!

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                    Not so bad if that fabled .026% mortality rate rings true. But would that apply to all infections or just the first? Would people be more or less likely to die on second (or third or fourth) rounds with the virus.

                    Either way, the average lifespan might be dropping like a rock. No need to have retirement savings that’ll last 20+ years at least!
                    I have been saying this for years. That life expectancy will peak at some point in the future and start dropping. So hopefully mid-80s for me. Possibly only 80 for my kids as they are in way worse shape than I was at their age and so on.

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                      Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                      Not so bad if that fabled .026% mortality rate rings true. But would that apply to all infections or just the first? Would people be more or less likely to die on second (or third or fourth) rounds with the virus.

                      Either way, the average lifespan might be dropping like a rock. No need to have retirement savings that’ll last 20+ years at least!
                      So could this be nature's solution to the ethical dilemmas created by unnaturally intervening to extend our years beyond what we are capable of achieving without extensive and expensive medical interventions?

                      Like a drug for every bug, a pill for every ill and a stitch for every itch...

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                        #12
                        You can’t successfully fight Nature. Eventually she’ll win. She has no ethics or morals to cause dilemmas. She just does what she does.

                        Farmers know this. We battle her every year and how often does it end in our favour.

                        It’s only a matter of time before something takes out large chunks of the population. Be it natural disaster or pandemic. We’ve become extremely reliant on drugs, engineering, our intelligence, Etc. like those will protect us from everything, always. Fat chance.

                        It’d be like fighting human nature. No matter what people think, we’re pretty much always just going to be selfish, conceited, asshats more concerned with ourselves than our neighbours.

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                          #13
                          If you are in an environment where you do not know if the virus may be present:
                          1. Wear a mask all the time
                          2. wash your hands often
                          3. do not share a dish, cup or cigarette
                          4. maintain distances of more that one meter(the best at reducing odds)
                          5. spend less that 15 minutes with close contacts


                          Chances of getting the virus are greatly reduced
                          It's not that hard

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
                            You can’t successfully fight Nature. Eventually she’ll win. She has no ethics or morals to cause dilemmas. She just does what she does.

                            Farmers know this. We battle her every year and how often does it end in our favour.

                            It’s only a matter of time before something takes out large chunks of the population. Be it natural disaster or pandemic. We’ve become extremely reliant on drugs, engineering, our intelligence, Etc. like those will protect us from everything, always. Fat chance.

                            It’d be like fighting human nature. No matter what people think, we’re pretty much always just going to be selfish, conceited, asshats more concerned with ourselves than our neighbours.
                            Which leads to the question: Are we capable of making choices, or are we fully pre-programed to act as we do?

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                              Spanish scientists have found traces of the coronavirus in water sewage samples dating back to March 2019, suggesting the novel virus that triggered the current pandemic emerged from China much earlier than the Chinese Community Party previously admitted.

                              According to Reuters, the University of Barcelona revealed Friday that scientists discovered parts of the COVID-19 genome in wastewater samples collected in Barcelona in March 2019.
                              After the COVID-19 outbreak reached Europe, scientists at the university began conducting research on wastewater to possibly identify new outbreaks. They also decided to test old water samples, those collected between January 2018 and December 2019. Only a sample from March 2019 tested positive for COVID-19.

                              "The levels of SARS-CoV-2 were low but were positive," research leader Albert Bosch said, Reuters reported.
                              In an interview with the New York Times, Bosch explained, "Barcelona is a city that is frequented by Chinese people, in tourism and business, so probably this happened also elsewhere, and probably at the same time."

                              Regarding the virus being found in a single sample from March 2019, Bosch said that it makes sense because "respiratory viruses usually have peaks around this time of the year."
                              Dr. Joan Ramon Villalbi of the Spanish Society for Public Health and Sanitary Administration told Reuters the research is "definitely interesting, it's suggestive."
                              Italian scientists have also said they found COVID-19 genetic material present in sewage months before the virus turned northern Italy into the global COVID-19 hotspot.
                              China claims they only became aware of the virus in late December 2019.

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