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    #16
    Originally posted by fjlip View Post
    KKK, Democrats/leftist/liberals...
    Well if by your logic the KKK are democrats/leftist/liberals in the states because of history, then you must also believe that Saskatchewan Conservatives are the foundation of KKK in Canada. From Wikipedia:

    One of the most prominent groups was the Ku Klux Klan of Kanada, whose main principles of white supremacy and nationalism required members to pledge that they were white, gentile, and Protestant.[11] Organizers stated that the Ku Klux Klan was a Christian organization with "first allegiance to Canada and the Union Jack", disqualifying Jews from membership because they are not Christian, and Roman Catholics because their first allegiance is to the Pope in Rome.[14]

    Although the KKK operated throughout Canada, it was most successful in Saskatchewan, where by the late 1920s its membership was over 25,000.[11] Historian Allan Bartley states that this success was a result of opposition to liberal Government of Saskatchewan policy established by the entrenched Saskatchewan Liberal Party, which had held power in the province since its inception in 1905.[11]

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      #17
      NO I do not believe it...maybe those were the future CCF'ers? Tommy people...

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        #18
        Originally posted by fjlip View Post
        NO I do not believe it...maybe those were the future CCF'ers? Tommy people...
        Interesting that you can post a few pictures and statements that seem to tie Democrats to the KKK yet when I post documentation tying the KKK to Saskatchewan Conservatives from the same time period you refuse to believe it. Maybe I just never gave enough information. Here is some more information about the link from the same article:

        "In 1926, American Ku Klux Klan organizers Hugh Finlay Emmons and Lewis A. Scott from Indiana established a Klan organization in Saskatchewan.[16] They spent most of early 1927 travelling throughout the province, establishing local Klan branches and selling memberships for C$13 per individual.[19] They also spread Klan propaganda and burned crosses, and in July and August 1927 they made another tour of the province.[19]

        Soon after, they fled Saskatchewan with the funds they had raised, leaving the Ku Klux Klan floundering.[19] Hawkins and John James Maloney, a seminarian from Hamilton who denounced Romanism, moved to Saskatchewan to revive the organization.[19][20] Under his leadership, the organization raised over C$50,000 in membership fees and claimed to have registered over 70,000 members.[19] Fees were set at $15 per member annually.[21] Many of its members were supporters of the Conservative Party of Saskatchewan frustrated with the success of the Liberal Party as a result of strong support from Catholics.[22]

        All our troubles, all the sedition, plotting and plans against the national school system are hatched in Quebec.
        —Reverend S. P. Rondeau, 10 January 1929[23]
        Under the leadership of Hawkins and Maloney, the Klan became increasingly anti-Catholic and anti-French, and campaigned against the separate school system[19] with the slogan "one nation, one flag, one language, one school".[24] They opposed "crucifixes on public school walls, nuns teaching in public schools, and the teaching of French in public schools", blaming these issues on Quebec.[25] (The Constitution Act, 1867 guaranteed provincial rights to education and language, protecting minority rights, including those of Catholics and French-speaking citizens.) At a meeting of the Ku Klux Klan on 10 January 1929 at the Regent Hall in Saskatoon, reverend S.P. Rondeau stated that Quebec was attempting to establish Saskatchewan as a second French-speaking province.[23] Newly founded local chapters would announce their presence to the community with a ritual cross burning.[26
        from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_in_Canada

        Or consider this from another site:
        About 70 years ago the Ku Klux Klan was Saskatchewan's largest organization besides the Saskatchewan Wheat Pool. Saskatchewan had over 10,000 Klan members in the late 1920's. The KKK targeted the Catholics, Jewish, French, Chinese, Metis and African Americans. Klan members believed in white supremacy, that whites are better than any other race. In Saskatchewan it was mainly catholics and first nations because African Americans and the Chinese weren't established here at the time. The Klan was so big back then that they put ads in newspapers to recruit more klansmen.

        The Conservatives were the opposition in Saskatchewan at the time. They had members that were part of the Klan. James Gardiner, Premier of Saskatchewan at the time, was against the KKK and fought back. After the Conservatives no longer had any power, the Klan started to die out.

        Oh Fjlip: There are lots of pictures on this site too but I refuse to post those to glorify Klan activities so if you want to see Klan pictures in Saskatchewan you will have to look them up yourself

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          #19
          Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
          No, just offering some helpful advice, that if you want to earn credibility ( just like suggested in another thread regarding respect, both have to be earned), not running away from uncomfortable questions every time they come up, would work wonders.

          If you don't think that credibility is important, then carry on as is, but you are investing a massive amount of time for absolutely no results. The ROI on your efforts is not good. Perhaps quality over quantity would be a better approach. Finish one issue before moving on to another. Almost every other thread has someone asking you for an answer, and instead, you start another thread on another topic, rather than support your argument.

          Not all of us are dead set in our ways, and cannot be convinced if presented with facts that contradict our biases. You throw out some baseless insinuations, then, instead of defending them when we question them, you throw out some insults and childish name calling, then run away and start a new thread. If you think that you have the not only the moral high ground, but also the facts on your side, then stick with it, and defend your position. You might yet make some converts to your way of thinking.
          A5 do you think I really care if you think I am credible? LOL.

          When you are losing you seem to switch to talking about me. That's a sure sign you don't have much to say about the subject.

          I did ask how are all these changes and concerns and awareness about racism are affecting you negatively? No answer. Flea was honest. What's your excuse?

          When marginalized people subject to racism make gains, there has always been push back from those who are resistant to change. Many Agriville posters are pushing back.

          One lesson from history is no nation is immune from hate groups. Far right extremist groups pose a danger and with Trump spouting hate and division, its even more important to stand up against those who would take us back down an ugly path.

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            #20
            "Far right extremist groups pose a danger and with Trump spouting hate and division, its even more important to stand up against those who would take us back down an ugly path".

            Far left extremist groups pose a danger and with SJWs spouting hate and division, it's even more important to stand up against those who would take us back down an ugly path.

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              #21
              I haven't seen a lot of protestors in Mexico wanting to defund the police force.

              In fact in some areas, citizens would probably like to see more police protection.

              34,582 murdered in 2019.

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                #22
                Originally posted by rumrocks View Post
                I haven't seen a lot of protestors in Mexico wanting to defund the police force.

                In fact in some areas, citizens would probably like to see more police protection.

                34,582 murdered in 2019.

                Mostly gang-related?

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                  #23
                  https://twitter.com/PriapusIQ/status/1276891846921371648 https://twitter.com/PriapusIQ/status/1276891846921371648

                  One man's opinion.


                  Warning ------ contains Pierre Trudeau language.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                    "Far right extremist groups pose a danger and with Trump spouting hate and division, its even more important to stand up against those who would take us back down an ugly path".

                    Far left extremist groups pose a danger and with SJWs spouting hate and division, it's even more important to stand up against those who would take us back down an ugly path.
                    BP Such an original post! LOL

                    Where is your evidence to back up your opinion?

                    Here is mine:
                    The most recent in-depth analysis of far-right terrorism comes from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).

                    In a report released last week, the Escalating Terrorism Problem in the United States, CSIS analyses 25 years of domestic terrorism incidents and finds that the majority of attacks and plots have come from the far right.

                    The report says “the majority of all terrorist incidents in the United States since 1994, and the total number of rightwing attacks and plots has grown significantly during the past six years”, with the far right launching two-thirds of attacks and plots in 2019, and 90% of those in 2020.

                    The report adds: “Far-right terrorism has significantly outpaced terrorism from other types of perpetrators.” The second most significant source of attacks and plots in the US has been “religious extremists”, almost all “Salafi jihadists inspired by the Islamic State and al-Qaida”.
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                    The report shows the far left has been an increasingly negligible source of attacks since the mid 2000s. At that time the FBI defined arsons and other forms of property damage as domestic terrorism during a period some have called the “Green Scare”.
                    Last edited by chuckChuck; Jun 30, 2020, 13:36.

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                      #25
                      https://www.csis.org/programs/about-us https://www.csis.org/programs/about-us


                      About Us

                      The Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) is a bipartisan, nonprofit policy research organization dedicated to advancing practical ideas to address the world’s greatest challenges.

                      Thomas J. Pritzker was named chairman of the CSIS Board of Trustees in 2015, succeeding former U.S. Senator Sam Nunn (D-GA). Founded in 1962, CSIS is led by John J. Hamre, who has served as president and chief executive officer since 2000.
                      Thomas J. Pritzker (left) and John J. Hamre (right).

                      CSIS’s purpose is to define the future of national security. We are guided by a distinct set of values—non-partisanship, independent thought, innovative thinking, cross-disciplinary scholarship, integrity and professionalism, and talent development. CSIS’s values work in concert toward the goal of making real-world impact.

                      CSIS scholars bring their policy expertise, judgment, and robust networks to their research, analysis, and recommendations. We organize conferences, publish, lecture, and make media appearances that aim to increase the knowledge, awareness, and salience of policy issues with relevant stakeholders and the interested public.

                      CSIS has impact when our research helps to inform the decisionmaking of key policymakers and the thinking of key influencers. We work toward a vision of a safer and more prosperous world.

                      CSIS is ranked the number one think tank in the United States as well as the defense and national security center of excellence for 2016-2018 by the University of Pennsylvania’s "Global Go To Think Tank Index."

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                        #26
                        It’s about time ...
                        https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-police-chop-protest-durkan

                        Virtually all those involved are far left extremists

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                          #27
                          More divisive hateful propaganda trying to label violence as "far right" or even "far left".
                          Violence is violence, end of sentence.
                          Every time you qualify "violence" or whatever the action is, with "far right", "black, white" etc. You are lumping in a pile of people who have nothing to do with whatever it is you are trying to accuse them of.

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                            A5 do you think I really care if you think I am credible? LOL.

                            When you are losing you seem to switch to talking about me. That's a sure sign you don't have much to say about the subject.

                            I did ask how are all these changes and concerns and awareness about racism are affecting you negatively? No answer. Flea was honest. What's your excuse?

                            When marginalized people subject to racism make gains, there has always been push back from those who are resistant to change. Many Agriville posters are pushing back.

                            One lesson from history is no nation is immune from hate groups. Far right extremist groups pose a danger and with Trump spouting hate and division, its even more important to stand up against those who would take us back down an ugly path.
                            You should care if you are credible. It speaks volumes to your character.

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by flea beetle View Post
                              You should care if you are credible. It speaks volumes to your character.
                              Perhaps he has accepted that he is playing for an audience of one(2 now counting flea beetle), after realizing that everyone else has him on ignore? It was certainly odd how he singled out my opinion out in that response. Perhaps he is delusional enough to assume that all the posters who no longer consider him worth a response, consider him credible?

                              Measuring the results against an expected outcome is hardly an objective exercise. If the expected outcome is converting farmers to become rabid Marxists, then it appears the effort has been a unmitigated failure. If the expected outcome of insulting everyone who disagrees, name calling, avoiding all uncomfortable questions, and running away rather than face the facts, was to solidify opposition to his extremist views, then Chuck's strategy has been a roaring success. Perhaps it is all in how you frame the problem...

                              I just can't imagine how or why anyone would waste such a massive amount of their life on a mission, and not care if it is effective.

                              Might as well just spend all the money on crop inputs, equipment, labor, etc, then just pile them up in the center of the field and let it rot, if results don't matter. On paper you just grew an excellent crop with all the right inputs...

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                                A5 do you think I really care if you think I am credible? LOL.

                                When you are losing you seem to switch to talking about me. That's a sure sign you don't have much to say about the subject.

                                I did ask how are all these changes and concerns and awareness about racism are affecting you negatively? No answer. Flea was honest. What's your excuse?

                                When marginalized people subject to racism make gains, there has always been push back from those who are resistant to change. Many Agriville posters are pushing back.

                                One lesson from history is no nation is immune from hate groups. Far right extremist groups pose a danger and with Trump spouting hate and division, its even more important to stand up against those who would take us back down an ugly path.
                                It is crazy how you can even try misconstrue treating people with respect into support for your cause to show racism where there is none. And you even continue to tow the line even after being proven completely wrong in the other thread. No wonder you moved to this one. Wanted to leave your epic brain fart behind.

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