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Radical Lunatics Running a Country?

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  • WiltonRanch
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 4555

    #11
    Can argue who was a bigger pos leading our country but how the present American administration is going about trade talks is akin to shotgun diplomacy. They show up, demand what they want, and leave empty handed because they are trying a mob style shakedown rather than a trade negotiation and our negotiators aren’t giving in. Dairy is supposed to be such a big issue but fact of the matter they have tariff free access room which they never fill anyways. Far as I’m concerned they want more access to our banking which is far more dollars involved than some tit pullers. American banks can come in and compete with our handful of schedule 1 banks providing they abide by our regulations which they can’t. Look past dairy and every other apparent irritant the Americans say they have with Canada but it’s about banking access and softening the regulations more so. The present administration wants to make an example of Canada to coerce the rest of the world into their new trade regime of tariffs and quid pro quo. At the heart of the matter is the USA is in a debt bomb which they are trying to make the rest of the world pay for before it becomes untenable to service.

    Trump part 2 is probably the best thing to happen to Canada. He’s caused us to think about looking after ourselves and not being reliant on the USA. Too bad we allowed as much integration with the Americans as we did previously but at least now we maybe can grow up and move on. Since nafta we have no doubt benefited but that is done and even after Trump craps his last diaper not much will change. It’s going to be tough but have to forge on our own path.

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    • furrowtickler
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 22651

      #12
      This is what radical leadership is , the U.S. better be careful, it will not end well if these radicals like Piker continue to try to get into power . Pushback will be enormous very soon
      Last edited by furrowtickler; Aug 15, 2026, 06:06.

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      • chuckChuck
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 13439

        #13
        Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
        Can argue who was a bigger pos leading our country but how the present American administration is going about trade talks is akin to shotgun diplomacy. They show up, demand what they want, and leave empty handed because they are trying a mob style shakedown rather than a trade negotiation and our negotiators aren’t giving in. Dairy is supposed to be such a big issue but fact of the matter they have tariff free access room which they never fill anyways. Far as I’m concerned they want more access to our banking which is far more dollars involved than some tit pullers. American banks can come in and compete with our handful of schedule 1 banks providing they abide by our regulations which they can’t. Look past dairy and every other apparent irritant the Americans say they have with Canada but it’s about banking access and softening the regulations more so. The present administration wants to make an example of Canada to coerce the rest of the world into their new trade regime of tariffs and quid pro quo. At the heart of the matter is the USA is in a debt bomb which they are trying to make the rest of the world pay for before it becomes untenable to service.

        Trump part 2 is probably the best thing to happen to Canada. He’s caused us to think about looking after ourselves and not being reliant on the USA. Too bad we allowed as much integration with the Americans as we did previously but at least now we maybe can grow up and move on. Since nafta we have no doubt benefited but that is done and even after Trump craps his last diaper not much will change. It’s going to be tough but have to forge on our own path.
        Good Post Wilton!

        Harper, Trudeau, Carney all had support support from voters.

        The fact is most voters are moderate centritsts, center left in this country and will never support far right extremists like tRump and MAGA.

        Canadians are not like some americans who have chosen the worst president in their history.

        His approval rating are in the toilet.

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        • TSIPP
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 2736

          #14
          Why does Canada have a tariff on dairy? If it’s not needed get rid of the tariff…

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          • chuckChuck
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2006
            • 13439

            #15
            Ask the dairy farmers!

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            • WiltonRanch
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 4555

              #16
              Originally posted by TSIPP View Post
              Why does Canada have a tariff on dairy? If it’s not needed get rid of the tariff…
              American dairy exporters do not come close to filling the tariff free quota for the simple reason their dairy products have difficulty meeting regulations like no growth hormones and traces of antibiotics. Dairy is a red herring at trade discussions every time. Lot of us out west have a hate on for milkers because majority of them are in Quebec and that’s another discussion but stand up for our ag here as Americans would do the same for theirs.

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              • shtferbrains
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2017
                • 5454

                #17
                US. Dairy can't use their quota because the 2 Canadian suppliers you see in the stores won't distribute the product.
                The quota isn't enough to set up there own distribution.
                Dairy is the one of the only thing that come on its own truck.

                They are happy with status quo

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                • WiltonRanch
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 4555

                  #18
                  Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
                  US. Dairy can't use their quota because the 2 Canadian suppliers you see in the stores won't distribute the product.
                  The quota isn't enough to set up there own distribution.
                  Dairy is the one of the only thing that come on its own truck.

                  They are happy with status quo
                  Why won’t Canadian suppliers carry American product? I would assume it’s much cheaper.

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                  • shtferbrains
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 5454

                    #19
                    Why rock the boat?

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                    • furrowtickler
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 22651

                      #20
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post

                      Good Post Wilton!

                      Harper, Trudeau, Carney all had support support from voters.

                      The fact is most voters are moderate centritsts, center left in this country and will never support far right extremists like tRump and MAGA.

                      Canadians are not like some americans who have chosen the worst president in their history.

                      His approval rating are in the toilet.
                      Where is Jagmeet Singh nowadays??
                      The Maserati Marxist leader …..

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