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Premier Danielle Smith leads a separatist party

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  • chuckChuck
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 13083

    #11
    So So flipper and GF don't want Carney to work with Alberta for another pipeline to the coast? LOL

    Flipper and grain farmer seem really confused and bewildered as Carney moves Canada to the centre on a lot of policy issues.


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    • Grain Farmer
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2025
      • 695

      #12
      Can't trust that liar..it will never happen

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      • sumdumguy
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 12046

        #13
        Mr Smirk is toying with The West. The carrot is miles down the road and attainment is dubious at best.

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        • chuckChuck
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 13083

          #14
          It may not happen because no business will invest if they haven't already used all the potential existing capacity. Which is the case.

          Taxpayers should not subsidize pipelines that benefit the oil industry. Let them pay for them.

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          • wade
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2000
            • 287

            #15
            Taxpayers (some) don't want to subsidize a pipeline but want the government to step in when prices at the pump are high?
            Last edited by wade; May 17, 2026, 21:30.

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            • fjlip
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2002
              • 9891

              #16
              IMO, carnage is PAYING climate crazies, EBY and natives to say NO and kill it!

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              • blackpowder
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 9376

                #17
                Tax payers shouldn't be paying any carbon taxes either but here we are. Wouldn't you like to know where that money is going?

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                • Grain Farmer
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2025
                  • 695

                  #18
                  Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
                  Tax payers shouldn't be paying any carbon taxes either but here we are. Wouldn't you like to know where that money is going?
                  Zelinski. And other countries.

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                  • chuckChuck
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 13083

                    #19
                    What a bunch of stupid crap you guys spew!

                    The consumer carbon tax was mostly returned to consumers through rebates. Did you forget about the consumer rebates already? LOL

                    Alberta just agreed to pay the industrial carbon tax and collect carbon emisssions under the pathways agreement.

                    It was Steve Harper and Alberta that introduced the industrial carbon price in 2008.


                    In 2008, Stephen Harper’s Conservative government proposed an industrial carbon pricing framework designed to set a carbon price of \(\$65\) per tonne by 2018 through a cap-and-trade system. However, this policy was ultimately abandoned following the 2008 financial crisis. [1 ([url]https://www.theenergymix.com/for-decent-climate-policy-ideas-look-back-tostephen-harper/[/url]), 2 ([url]https://energynow.ca/2016/12/brief-history-canadian-carbon-tax/[/url]), 3 ([url]https://www.ndp.ca/news/stephen-harpers-own-words)][/url]

                    Key details of the Harper-era carbon policy:
                    • 2007 Initial Pledge: Early in his tenure, Harper committed to regulating greenhouse gas emissions for large industrial emitters, which prompted Alberta to become the first jurisdiction in North America to put a price on industrial carbon emissions. [1 ([url]https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/2148650/alberta-pioneered-industrial-carbon-pricing-now-poilievre-says-hed-kill-the-federal-mandate-for-it)][/url]
                    • The 2008 Plan: In May 2008, Harper officially unveiled a green plan that promised to establish a North American-wide cap-and-trade system. This plan was intended to reach an effective carbon price of \(\$65\) a tonne by 2018. [1 ([url]https://macleans.ca/politics/ottawa/stephen-harpers-tax-on-everything/[/url]), 2 ([url]https://energynow.ca/2016/12/brief-history-canadian-carbon-tax/[/url]), 3 ([url]https://www.ndp.ca/news/stephen-harpers-own-words)][/url]
                    • Policy Reversal: Despite the 2008 election platform commitment, implementation was repeatedly delayed. The government eventually dropped the cap-and-trade proposal entirely after winning a majority government in 2011, pivoting to sector-by-sector regulations (like phasing out traditional coal plants) rather than an economy-wide carbon price. [1 ([url]https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/stephen-harper-s-climate-change-comments-only-half-the-story-critics-say-1.2878524[/url]), 2 ([url]https://energynow.ca/2016/12/brief-history-canadian-carbon-tax/)][/url]

                    While the federal cap-and-trade scheme never took effect, Alberta's foundational industrial pricing system survived and eventually evolved alongside Canada's modern climate policies.

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                    • Hamloc
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 3995

                      #20
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      What a bunch of stupid crap you guys spew!

                      The consumer carbon tax was mostly returned to consumers through rebates. Did you forget about the consumer rebates already? LOL

                      Alberta just agreed to pay the industrial carbon tax and collect carbon emisssions under the pathways agreement.


                      From: pm.go.ca.

                      ”Quick Facts”
                      ”Cancelling the federal consumer carbon tax effective April 1, 2025 directly helping Canadians save money at the pump. The government also removed the requirement for provinces and territories to have a consumer-facing carbon price as of that date. This has helped reduce gas prices in most provinces and territories by up to 18 cents per litre in comparison to 2024-2025, lowering headline inflation.”

                      Interesting how Justin Trudeau said the consumer carbon tax benefitted Canadians and how Mark Carney said its removal benefitted Canadians and lowered inflation. But Mark Carney wants a higher carbon tax on industry. I think Danielle Smiths agreement to this is moronic and wrong!! Not sure how Mark Carney can say removing the consumer carbon tax benefitted Canadians and lowered inflation and then on the other hand is insisting that there is a higher carbon tax on industry. I would say he is an environmentalist not an economist regardless of his education.

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