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  • chuckChuck
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 12682

    #11
    Yeah we are going to need all sources of energy during the transition.

    But why did Harper say we needed to stop fossil fuels then if it isn't a problem?

    You and I will be mostly fine in our lifetimes but the earth is on track for runaway climate change which is a real possibility.

    And solar and wind are the fastest growing sources of new energy worldwide. China is on track to install massive amounts of each plus storage. China is the world leader in new and advanced technology.

    The US wants to bring back the 1950s so that the oil companies can retain their US dominance and fund MAGA and the Republicans again!

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    • Hamloc
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 3894

      #12
      I found this interesting. Volvo is recalling up to 40000 vehicles due to battery fire risk in the U.S. Same issue in Canada. Article says it could cost Volvo $200 million.

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      • Hamloc
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2014
        • 3894

        #13
        Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
        Yeah in 1 lifetime if you were born in 2026.

        The very fact he said it should be enough to confirm there is a problem!

        But of course you are never going to convince flat earthers and other science deniers like Flipper, Absurd 5 and BL.

        They will stand at the bottom of the Columbia ice fields looking at the dates of where the glaciers were over the decades and tell you that the earth is cooling!
        Actually I think there is a perceived political imperative that politicians must support the concept of climate change to be elected. This is enforced by our biased education curriculum and a built in main stream media bias. A good example is when Justin Trudeau changed the name of the Environment Canada portfolio to Environment and Climate Change Canada. Since then the weather forecasts have added apocalyptic language on occasion to create a fearful reaction in the wider populace. So in Stephen Harper’s case he appeared to support the concept by saying that by 2100 we would no longer be using fossil fuels. Really a meaningless statement as the timeline was so far out but it allowed him to be seen as not being a climate change denier.

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        • Landdownunder
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2021
          • 1776

          #14
          A few past there life solar farms owners just walking away plus unprofitable ones just walking away.
          Bit unsure of the life but seems 25 yrs. No attempted clean up, I know jack shit about why dont they just put new panels on and go again obviously thats a simplistic thought might see what I can find out.
          But bear in mind technology way better now that 25 yrs ago. Hundreds and hundreds of acres.
          doesnt matter if its oil wind solar always a cleanup when finished

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          • blackpowder
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 9231

            #15
            Originally posted by Hamloc View Post

            Actually I think there is a perceived political imperative that politicians must support the concept of climate change to be elected. This is enforced by our biased education curriculum and a built in main stream media bias. A good example is when Justin Trudeau changed the name of the Environment Canada portfolio to Environment and Climate Change Canada. Since then the weather forecasts have added apocalyptic language on occasion to create a fearful reaction in the wider populace. So in Stephen Harper’s case he appeared to support the concept by saying that by 2100 we would no longer be using fossil fuels. Really a meaningless statement as the timeline was so far out but it allowed him to be seen as not being a climate change denier.
            Yup. After it changed to E&CCC, weather warnings come out 10 degrees sooner. Storm warnings sooner and more urgent.
            Weather prediction itself hasn't changed at all.
            Govt has really increased the usage of marketing tactics since 2015.
            All we're missing is the Ministry of Silly Walks. Coming soon I'm sure, found right beside the Ministries of Truth and Plenty. Same pattern.

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            • AlbertaFarmer5
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 12465

              #16
              To paraphrase Catherine McKenna,
              If you repeat the lies loud enough and often enough the chucks devoid of all critical thinking skills will believe anything.

              1984 should be required reading to qualify to vote.

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              • AlbertaFarmer5
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 12465

                #17
                On second thought, as we learned during covid, a large portion of the population would consider 1984 to be an instruction manual.

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                • chuckChuck
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 12682

                  #18
                  Blah blah blah!

                  The anti science losers said covid was a plandemic, a hoax, vaccines were designed to kill us etc etc.

                  And surprise surprise climate change is a hoax, a socialist plot, scientists are all wrong etc etc.

                  With no credible science to back up their fringe political opinions.

                  More anti science views like the flat erathers who are just the extreme version of stupid and clueless about science and evidence.

                  You can show them the shrinking glaciers over the decades in the rockies but you can't make em put 2 and 2 together!

                  They would fit right into the dark ages.

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                  • blackpowder
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 9231

                    #19
                    Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                    To paraphrase Catherine McKenna,
                    If you repeat the lies loud enough and often enough the chucks devoid of all critical thinking skills will believe anything.

                    1984 should be required reading to qualify to vote.
                    Replace lies with idea. Keeps it a discussion, less offensive. More broadly accurate.
                    Last time I read 1984 and Animal Farm I was too young to absorb it all. Thinking I'll attempt a redo.
                    Another required reading should be The Emperor has no Clothes.
                    A study of how advertising works wouldn't hurt either. All plays into how our specie functions.
                    Changing a society or buying a certain product.
                    Are there similarities between the tin foil doozies you hear at the coffee shop and the completely miserable Chucks? Maybe they're all just unwittingly filling a void in themselves.

                    There are many things I can neither prove nor disprove. But I'm alert to flags, question motives, and although perhaps a fault, I have a low tolerance for dumb. Seems I'm an anachronism in the FB age lol.

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                    • Hamloc
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 3894

                      #20
                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      Blah blah blah!

                      The anti science losers said covid was a plandemic, a hoax, vaccines were designed to kill us etc etc.

                      And surprise surprise climate change is a hoax, a socialist plot, scientists are all wrong etc etc.

                      With no credible science to back up their fringe political opinions.

                      More anti science views like the flat erathers who are just the extreme version of stupid and clueless about science and evidence.

                      You can show them the shrinking glaciers over the decades in the rockies but you can't make em put 2 and 2 together!

                      They would fit right into the dark ages.
                      Your apparently working on the assumption that glaciers shouldn’t recede or change. If the glaciers that existed during the ice age hadn’t shrunk and or receded where would we be today?!

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