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  • fjlip
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2002
    • 9785

    #31
    Originally posted by cropgrower View Post
    exactly ,less government by far the best
    Carnage said all over CBC CTV, we MUST earn our freedom everyday!

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    • chuckChuck
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 12696

      #32
      Trump supporters telling us less government is better? What a laugh.

      Donny Trump is interfering and imposing his government policies in ways that we never thought would happen in the USA!

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      • chuckChuck
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 12696

        #33
        Crop and Flipper let us know when you find a "utopian" country with no government! LOL

        The closest you might come is some warring african nation run by rebels!

        But if you want to experience a refusal for healthcare, show up in most US hospitals without a credit card or insurance!

        Our system is far better and much lower in cost as a percentage of the GDP.

        "Health care spending, both per person and as a share of GDP, continues to be far higher in the United States than in other high-income countries. Yet the U.S. is the only country that doesn't have universal health coverage.​"​

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        • Hamloc
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 3894

          #34
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          Crop and Flipper let us know when you find a "utopian" country with no government! LOL

          The closest you might come is some warring african nation run by rebels!

          But if you want to experience a refusal for healthcare, show up in most US hospitals without a credit card or insurance!

          Our system is far better and much lower in cost as a percentage of the GDP.

          "Health care spending, both per person and as a share of GDP, continues to be far higher in the United States than in other high-income countries. Yet the U.S. is the only country that doesn't have universal health coverage.​"​
          You should read up on Switzerlands universal healthcare model Chuck2, number 1 in the world.

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          • LEP
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 2456

            #35
            Originally posted by Hamloc View Post

            You should read up on Switzerlands universal healthcare model Chuck2, number 1 in the world.
            There couldn't possibly be a better system than mandatory public healthcare. Cough cough.

            Could there??

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            • agstar77
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2001
              • 6163

              #36
              Originally posted by Hamloc View Post

              You should read up on Switzerlands universal healthcare model Chuck2, number 1 in the world.
              You did read the part about non profit insurance providers? That was the case in the U.S. until they changed to for profit. Hmmm?

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              • cropgrower
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2021
                • 2985

                #37
                are they like the non profits here where the lads at the top pay themselves huge wages and massive bonuses ?

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                • chuckChuck
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 12696

                  #38
                  Of course the solution the usual right wing suspects favour is a 2 tiered for profit system.

                  How does a for profit system allocate more resources when total resources are limited?

                  How does a for profit system deal with the higher cost aging population?

                  Healthcare is underfunded by provinces that don't want to increase taxes to provide more elective surgeries and more long term care beds for seniors.

                  How does for profit healthcare address these fundamental issues by allowing private providers to take a profit and draining limited resources away from the public system?







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                  • blackpowder
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 9231

                    #39
                    Okay. Grain industry betterment and health care related now.
                    Possible link involves our pattern of thinking as illustrated here.
                    Ignore function either by mental training or forum function, definitely useful.

                    Latest Farm Aid announcement by Washington has me dredging up this thread.
                    Vaguely familiar to '84 if I remember. That did not turn out well for us.
                    Wondering aloud if we have an equivalent to the American Farm Bureau here?
                    Yet more proof that what the US does can't work? Just not here obviously.

                    And why would any US money be funneled to thinly disguised Canadian anti-oil groups?
                    Land locking ours in their best interests of course. We are mere pawns.

                    2 more examples of powerful lobbies at work. Real money at work. Not one cent from a government.
                    2 more cases to ignore.
                    Okay, so the American way is All bad.
                    And the Canadian way is righteous and All good.
                    Answer me good at what exactly.


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                    • blackpowder
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 9231

                      #40
                      Not sure which thread to put this on. My son's life, if even alive, would look very different without private care as the necessary care was/is unavailable or non-existent free.
                      Even the righteous would sell their soul to save their child.
                      All this cheap talk overlooks the standard of care that doesn't even exist or is completely out of reach where it might.

                      One more question.
                      Since the thread is exploring the cost of ideology and beliefs.

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