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  • AlbertaFarmer5
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 12597

    #41
    So the government should lie to us. And that will ensure that people trust what the government tells us in the future.
    Even though anyone involved with any medical procedure including vaccines since beginning of time has known that they all have risks and may not always be effective.
    But in this special case, anyone admitting what everyone already knows needs to be silenced.

    For the first time in human history we were supposed to all pretend that a novel untested medical intervention would be completely safe and completely effective.

    Which do you think created more vaccine hesitancy, being blatantly lied to by our government and healthcare professionals, or the people pointing out that they were lying?
    Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Oct 3, 2025, 20:03.

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    • agstar77
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2001
      • 6270

      #42
      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
      So the government should lie to us. And that will ensure that people trust what the government tells us in the future.
      Even though anyone involved with any medical procedure including vaccines since beginning of time has known that they all have risks and may not always be effective.
      But in this special case, anyone admitting what everyone already knows needs to be silenced.

      For the first time in human history we were supposed to all pretend that a novel untested medical intervention would be completely safe and completely effective.

      Which do you think created more vaccine hesitancy, being blatantly lied to by our government and healthcare professionals, or the people pointing out that th ey were lying?
      Could you tell me who lied? Just remember giving an opinion that you believe to be true is not a lie.

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      • furrowtickler
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2004
        • 22211

        #43
        Originally posted by agstar77 View Post

        Could you tell me who lied? Just remember giving an opinion that you believe to be true is not a lie.
        Unless you know it is before hand

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        • AlbertaFarmer5
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 12597

          #44
          They knew safe and effective was a lie right from the beginning.

          That wasn't even theoretically possible to be true.

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          • AlbertaFarmer5
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 12597

            #45
            Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
            After a second infant death from measles, maybe there might be a problem?
            Could the problem be that the populace no longer trusts the government because the government the media, the authorities and the health officials all lied to them?

            Now people who have never questioned authority in their lives, suddenly don't know what or who to believe.

            That is genuinely dangerous.

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            • agstar77
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2001
              • 6270

              #46
              Could be the amplification of conspiracy folks and anti science through social media. Time to toughen mandatory vaccination for daycare and school.
              Last edited by agstar77; Oct 3, 2025, 21:35.

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              • cropgrower
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2021
                • 2985

                #47
                sure more dictatorship is just whats needed , how about being honest with people , telling people the trial data would be hid for 75 years sure made them want to roll up their sleeve , i will guarantee that transparency would get far better results , its called informed concent
                maybe treating people as if they are stupid works on some but on a huge number it certainly don't

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                • cropgrower
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2021
                  • 2985

                  #48
                  and i have a list of jab lies , but why post when all i will get is a round of insults in the morning ?

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                  • AlbertaFarmer5
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 12597

                    #49
                    Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
                    . Time to toughen mandatory vaccination for daycare and school.
                    That will do wonders for restoring people's trust.

                    You should really be put in charge of public relations.

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                    • foragefarmer
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 3511

                      #50
                      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post
                      That will do wonders for restoring people's trust.

                      You should really be put in charge of public relations.
                      Like the turst JFK jr. is restoring in a proven 60 year old vaccine for the public to read and hear?


                      Ab5 and Crop you guys ok with that kind of public information?
                      Last edited by foragefarmer; Oct 4, 2025, 05:36.

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