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  • Blaithin
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2016
    • 2521

    #41
    Low or rare probability with high or catastrophic consequences get ranked as a medium/moderate risk.

    Medium/Moderate risk with some control methods introduced can get it reduced to a lower risk rating. Culling one flock of Ostriches is hardly an extreme measure to help keep the risk rating lower. As other examples of animal control have been used in this thread - if your herd of cows tested for TB, they're gone. If my chickens tested for Bird Flu, they're gone. Why are the ostriches different? Because Covid?

    My toolbox would not consider these events however the CFIA, WHO, CDC, and many others would.

    Personally I'm fully in favour of a world pandemic. We carry along too many genetically defunct people due to our emotions and our make believe ethics and morals and it's lead to gross over population and poor health within the population, there are too many elderly in our system which is putting a strain on it, it's even begun to impact reproductive rates. It is no longer survival of the fittest.

    Despite my own personal beliefs on the scenario, I can still see and understand why they are doing what they are doing.

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    • cropgrower
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2021
      • 2985

      #42
      And millions of wild birds fly all over pooping on everything , wiping out an ostrich farm will change notting , ostriches that were exposed ,survived and now have immunity , how about when they want to destroy peoples pets or horses or whatever ? and threaten a huge fine if you go and do an independent test on your animal ?

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      • TSIPP
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 2682

        #43
        Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
        Low or rare probability with high or catastrophic consequences get ranked as a medium/moderate risk.

        Medium/Moderate risk with some control methods introduced can get it reduced to a lower risk rating. Culling one flock of Ostriches is hardly an extreme measure to help keep the risk rating lower. As other examples of animal control have been used in this thread - if your herd of cows tested for TB, they're gone. If my chickens tested for Bird Flu, they're gone. Why are the ostriches different? Because Covid?

        My toolbox would not consider these events however the CFIA, WHO, CDC, and many others would.

        Personally I'm fully in favour of a world pandemic. We carry along too many genetically defunct people due to our emotions and our make believe ethics and morals and it's lead to gross over population and poor health within the population, there are too many elderly in our system which is putting a strain on it, it's even begun to impact reproductive rates. It is no longer survival of the fittest.

        Despite my own personal beliefs on the scenario, I can still see and understand why they are doing what they are doing.
        Blaithin, holy shit, you’re cold!

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        • chuckChuck
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 13073

          #44
          Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post

          In my opinion, the difference is that the bureaucrats and public health officials lost all credibility with their authoritarian bungling of covid and the vaccine.

          I warned at the time that this loss of respect, trust and confidence would have dire consequences the next time there is an actual public health emergency.

          You are now reaping what you sowed. What did you expect was going to happen?
          They only lost credibility amongst antivaxer, flat earthers and the other antiscience anti government types like you Absurd 5. Some of the same people called Covid a cold, and a plandemic that could be cured with bleach and ivermectin!

          It's the dumb and dumber crowd thinking I can outdo dumber with more dumb!

          And now you are blaming the CFIA after the wacko antivaxers get involved with a ostrich farm? LOL
          Last edited by chuckChuck; Sep 29, 2025, 07:19.

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          • Blaithin
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2016
            • 2521

            #45
            Originally posted by cropgrower View Post
            And millions of wild birds fly all over pooping on everything , wiping out an ostrich farm will change notting , ostriches that were exposed ,survived and now have immunity , how about when they want to destroy peoples pets or horses or whatever ? and threaten a huge fine if you go and do an independent test on your animal ?
            Do people that contract HIV and have no symptoms have immunity?

            What about Johnes in cattle?

            BLV?

            I don’t know where this concept of no symptoms and survival means immunity came from. Many different pathogens, be they viral or bacterial are quite capable of long incubation periods and some are as successful as they are BECAUSE they have little to no symptoms.

            I’d be more willing to argue to keep some of the ostriches around as research to see how the virus behaves than the idea they’re immune.

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            • blackpowder
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 9369

              #46
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post

              They only lost credibility amongst antivaxer, flat earthers and the other antiscience anti government types like you Absurd 5. Some of the same people called Covid a cold, and a plandemic that could be cured with bleach and ivermectin!

              It's the dumb and dumber crowd thinking I can outdo dumber with more dumb!

              And now you are blaming the CFIA after the wacko antivaxers get involved with a ostrich farm? LOL
              Again, your choice to make an enemy is part of the problem.
              Your attitude would raise the hair on anyone.

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              • AlbertaFarmer5
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 12600

                #47
                Originally posted by blackpowder View Post

                Again, your choice to make an enemy is part of the problem.
                Your attitude would raise the hair on anyone.
                I can't possibly understand why his political career never took off...

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                • cropgrower
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2021
                  • 2985

                  #48
                  Originally posted by Blaithin View Post

                  Do people that contract HIV and have no symptoms have immunity?

                  What about Johnes in cattle?

                  BLV?

                  I don’t know where this concept of no symptoms and survival means immunity came from. Many different pathogens, be they viral or bacterial are quite capable of long incubation periods and some are as successful as they are BECAUSE they have little to no symptoms.

                  I’d be more willing to argue to keep some of the ostriches around as research to see how the virus behaves than the idea they’re immune.
                  are you saying that immunity is not acquired by exposure ?

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                  • TSIPP
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 2682

                    #49
                    Originally posted by cropgrower View Post
                    And millions of wild birds fly all over pooping on everything , wiping out an ostrich farm will change notting
                    It’s actually billions with a B

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                    • furrowtickler
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 22219

                      #50
                      Read Carney’s book , there will be no ag but organic and zero livestock
                      it’s unfortunate that people even in ag can’t see what’s coming
                      enjoy being a vegetarian and harvest ing next to nothing so we can save the planet .
                      Meanwhile the elites will fly around

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