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  • cropgrower
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2021
    • 2985

    #41
    Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post

    The problem with our democracy is summed up in this map

    History shows concentration of power causes discontent?
    yes too many takers and not enough makers

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    • chuckChuck
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 12753

      #42
      Are you including farmers as takers? Because farmers and oil companies get taxpayer subsidies.

      What about seniors who need income support and more healthcare? Aren't they takers too?

      Another dumb ass conservative slogan for the simple minded.

      And conservatives who support tRump and the billionaires they are supporting the concentration of power in the hands of authoritarians!

      Try to put 2 and 2 together!

      So what the hell are you talking about hippo crits?

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      • AlbertaFarmer5
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 12505

        #43
        Chuck, do you understand the concept of net vs gross?

        A hypothetical farmer or oil company who receives "subsidies"(also known as not confiscating all of their income, as the socialists would prefer), but pays 5 times as much in income tax, contributes millions to the GDP of the country, creates countless downstream jobs, and virtually everything he produces is exported, contributing positively to our balance of trade.

        Contrast that with a bureaucrat whose function is to obstruct the farmer or oil company from creating GDP, while collecting a generous wage, and a lifetime of benefits. All paid for from the taxes and royalties paid by the farmer or oil company.

        Can you decipher which is a net taker, and which is a net maker?
        Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Apr 27, 2025, 15:58.

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        • furrowtickler
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2004
          • 21864

          #44
          Again Chuck only tells part of the story

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          • blackpowder
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 9256

            #45
            I'd like to see Chuck raise the capital to develop a lease, prove it, then raise the capital to drill another before you're other leases are taken from you by a bigger fish. Chinese outfits in AB don't seem to have a capital problem.
            Where's those profits going dickhead. Drill baby drill a free pass if Chinese I guess.

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            • chuckChuck
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 12753

              #46
              Oil companies have made record profits on the backs of consumers in recent years. But still receive taxpayer incentives, subsidies and some of the lowest royalty rates in the world.

              Private profit and the public pays for the cleanup and the mess!

              Nice work if you can get it!

              And world prices are manipulated by OPEC!

              And by the way, Trudeau's pipeline to the west coast lowered the WCS differential and helped the oil industry. But according to chronic whiners in Alberta, Trudeau killed the oil industry!

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              • blackpowder
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 9256

                #47
                No matter how much fact checking one does, your Eastern media propaganda will continue unchanged.
                You could have written that years ago and reposted. We can debunk that all day and you'll use it again later.
                Works for your Eastern readers I guess. Nice job if you can get it.
                I sure wouldn't want it.

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                • AlbertaFarmer5
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 12505

                  #48
                  Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                  Oil companies have made record profits on the backs of consumers in recent years. But still receive taxpayer incentives, subsidies and some of the lowest royalty rates in the world.

                  Private profit and the public pays for the cleanup and the mess!

                  Nice work if you can get it!

                  And world prices are manipulated by OPEC!

                  And by the way, Trudeau's pipeline to the west coast lowered the WCS differential and helped the oil industry. But according to chronic whiners in Alberta, Trudeau killed the oil industry!
                  So, you don't understand the difference between net vs. gross.

                  Once again, you could have saved a lot of typing and just stated that.

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                  • fjlip
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 9801

                    #49
                    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                    Are you including farmers as takers? Because farmers and oil companies get taxpayer subsidies.

                    What about seniors who need income support and more healthcare? Aren't they takers too?

                    Another dumb ass conservative slogan for the simple minded.

                    And conservatives who support tRump and the billionaires they are supporting the concentration of power in the hands of authoritarians!

                    Try to put 2 and 2 together!

                    So what the hell are you talking about hippo crits?
                    How can you be WRONG on everything? Must be mentally devastating...

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