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Trump going full Putin!

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  • farmaholic
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 17464

    #21
    War has a way of indoctrinating and molding attitudes of the young people(yes even children) it affects. Imagine being an 8 to 14 year old boy seeing and living in the death and destruction of the Gaza strip or eastern Ukraine. No wonder some of those places never have long lasting peace. Resentment, hate and revenge are in place.

    I'm not picking sides, just making a point. I don't know who "started" what "when"...

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    • sumdumguy
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 11951

      #22
      Why is Trump not inviting “Z” to negotiation with Putin?

      I think there is enough animosity between “Z” and “P” to kybosh any negotiations. Egos would probably derail the whole exercise. MHO
      Last edited by sumdumguy; Feb 28, 2025, 04:43.

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      • AlbertaFarmer5
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 12464

        #23
        Probably because Z made a law prohibiting him or his country from negotiating with Russia.

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        • AlbertaFarmer5
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 12464

          #24
          Originally posted by farmaholic View Post
          War has a way of indoctrinating and molding attitudes of the young people(yes even children) it affects. Imagine being an 8 to 14 year old boy seeing and living in the death and destruction of the Gaza strip or eastern Ukraine. No wonder some of those places never have long lasting peace. Resentment, hate and revenge are in place.

          I'm not picking sides, just making a point. I don't know who "started" what "when"...
          A really good book on that topic is last witness by Svetlana Alexievich.
          Interviewing people who were young children and occupied Belarus (primarily) during world war ii. The horrific things they witnessed and endured.
          It is not the depressing read you would think it would be. The resilience and positivity of children is incredible.



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          • fjlip
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2002
            • 9772

            #25
            Yup, HATE breeds Hate, endless war, death...very human of us!

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            • WiltonRanch
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 4512

              #26
              Watched Trump and Vance on Zelenskyy. Don’t care where you sit on the issue but that was crass and trashy on their part. Like a pair of boiler room salesmen. World is on edge the island of stability is gone.

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              • TSIPP
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 2659

                #27
                Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
                Watched Trump and Vance on Zelenskyy. Don’t care where you sit on the issue but that was crass and trashy on their part. Like a pair of boiler room salesmen. World is on edge the island of stability is gone.
                I thought Zelenskyy was acting like a cheap pushy car sales guy, you come and try that at my castle acting like a cheap car salesman and things might not go well.

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                • WiltonRanch
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 4512

                  #28
                  Originally posted by TSIPP View Post

                  I thought Zelenskyy was acting like a cheap pushy car sales guy, you come and try that at my castle acting like a cheap car salesman and things might not go well.
                  Seriously? Trump and Vance could’ve done it in private like what most decent humans would.

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                  • LEP
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 2455

                    #29
                    You saw something I didn't. Zelensky was defending himself from the two aggressors. Unfortunately, Zelensky was the one with everything on the line in the short term.

                    The other two will have more on the line later.

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                    • shtferbrains
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2017
                      • 5163

                      #30


                      I wouldn't 100% agree with this but there is a lot of truth in some of the major points.

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