Harris 48% Trump 50% Popular Vote

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Joe proudly wears his hat ….

[A990]

Joe proudly wears his hat ….

and Jill in her red suit on election day

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I think Kamala was cheated somehow?
She got 15 million less votes than Biden did.
Where did all those Trump hating Democrats go?
Are they not motivated to vote this time?
15 million!!!!
Where did those voters go Chuck?

The real question should be …. Where did the extra 15 million votes come from ?
looking at the graph sure is interesting

[chuckChuck]

48 % vs 50% for Trump. That's not a resounding defeat except in the archaic winner take all Electoral College.

"In the three most hotly contested states – Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania – the margin of victory averaged 1.1 percentage points, or fewer than 244,000 votes between them.

It doesn't take much of swing one way or other to change the outcome.

Trump will no doubt want to be leader for life like his buddy Putin! with a 2% marginal win in the popular vote!

Trump will intimidate and threaten his opponents and journalists, taking another page from the Putin playbook.

[shtferbrains]

It doesn't take much of swing one way or other to change the outcome.

Do you think they should have left Biden in who was the candidate elected in the primary?
His 15 million more votes than the puppet's might have made up that 2% the dems are crying about?
He seemed to know what it takes to win?

[blackpowder]

The electoral college may be old but I believe it would have prevented the mish mash we have.

[WiltonRanch]

48 % vs 50% for Trump. That's not a resounding defeat except in the archaic winner take all Electoral College.

"In the three most hotly contested states – Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania – the margin of victory averaged 1.1 percentage points, or fewer than 244,000 votes between them.

It doesn't take much of swing one way or other to change the outcome.

Trump will no doubt want to be leader for life like his buddy Putin! with a 2% marginal win in the popular vote!

Trump will intimidate and threaten his opponents and journalists, taking another page from the Putin playbook.

Rich coming from a Canadian socialist whose party secured majority governments in Saskatchewan with 40% popular support, or Cretien liberals achieving healthy majorities with 33%. Love him or hate him Trump won a decisive majority. Love the about face Democrats did from wholeheartedly defending voting machines and the electoral process to alleging election fraud. Even in Canada election reform is kicked around by factions until they are benefactors of the present system. Then it is forgotten about. I am still for a truly balanced representation in the senate but it is a no go by parties in power as it is a messy affair which opens up a can of worms like Meech Lake, or it opens further debate to move to a republic and ditch the constitutional monarchy. Be careful what you wish for.

[blackpowder]

From memory, Chuck advocates fairvote.ca
Look it up. We all need to be careful what we wish for. I don't believe it's that.

[Hamloc]

48 % vs 50% for Trump. That's not a resounding defeat except in the archaic winner take all Electoral College.

"In the three most hotly contested states – Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania – the margin of victory averaged 1.1 percentage points, or fewer than 244,000 votes between them.

It doesn't take much of swing one way or other to change the outcome.

Trump will no doubt want to be leader for life like his buddy Putin! with a 2% marginal win in the popular vote!

Trump will intimidate and threaten his opponents and journalists, taking another page from the Putin playbook.

In the 2020 election, as I pointed out before, a swing in votes of just over 166000 in Arizona, Pennsylvania and North Carolina would have given Trump the Whitehouse.

[chuckChuck]

48% vs 50% is not a decisive victory in a 2 party system. It's distorted by the winner take all electoral college in most states.

Canada's archaic first past the post system has been replaced with proportional representation in Australia and New Zealand and most of Europe.

Those systems work well.

But the Conservatives and Liberals don't like sharing power.