Sask. 'moving forward' with $1.15B Lake Diefenbaker Irrigation Project

[newguy]

The difference is that one will increase productivity and GDP and tax revenues for generations to come. One will decrease all of the above.

One subsidizes energy one subsidizes food production.This is farm forum.Why would any farmer want other farmers subsidized at that level ?

[sumdumguy]

It would be a crying shame if Moe turns this thing into a scandal and we end up being governed by socialists again. Think Moe - Think!

[AlbertaFarmer5]

One subsidizes energy one subsidizes food production.This is farm forum.Why would any farmer want other farmers subsidized at that level ?

I don't want taxpayer dollars subsidizing any industry. Especially one I have to compete with.

But if government bureaucracy , red tape, and regulations are going to make it impossible for the private sector to build anything on the scale of an irrigation project, then the only way we're ever going to have economic growth again is if government also contributes to these projects.
At least at the end, there is a productive asset.
Contrast that with government subsidies for green energy which only result in higher energy costs for all of society and a bunch of red herring wind and solar installations which the taxpayer will inevitably be on the hook for.

[blackpowder]

One subsidizes energy one subsidizes food production.This is farm forum.Why would any farmer want other farmers subsidized at that level ?

That last sentence very interesting.
Please explain why you wouldn't want anyone in your industry getting more than you...
Sounds like the old argument for centralized rail car allocation.
Then explain the "fairness" to all including consumers, of supply management.
You see?
Pure socialism as a dogma runs into contradictory predicaments.

[blackpowder]

Subsidies in a perfect world act like flow controls and relief valves.
How long to build a transcon railroad without giving land in exchange. It was just mishandled after the fact in Canada.

[newguy]

That last sentence very interesting.
Please explain why you wouldn't want anyone in your industry getting more than you...
Sounds like the old argument for centralized rail car allocation.
Then explain the "fairness" to all including consumers, of supply management.
You see?
Pure socialism as a dogma runs into contradictory predicaments.

The problem is it is subsidizing production of more grain.Any one that markets their grain would realize that causes a negative on pricing.Cheap food policies are consumer subsidies at the cost of farmers.

[blackpowder]

And my Nigerian friend tells me groceries are higher here than elsewhere he's been.
It's worldwide politics as well.
Who would you have grow less?

[AlbertaFarmer5]

And my Nigerian friend tells me groceries are higher here than elsewhere he's been.
It's worldwide politics as well.
Who would you have grow less?

That's not what my Nigerian friend told me.
My Nigerian friend just told me that the check is in the mail (again, it got lost the last 12 times he told me that), but that he needs more of my banking information and another credit card to make sure the late Nigerian Prince's Fortune is all transferred to my account.

He also taught me a good lesson about gullibility. Anyone who was gullible enough to believe the Nigerian prince scam would also be naive enough to think that Canada sets the world price for grains and that a few thousand more acres of irrigated grain will affect the world price that we all sell our grain for. Meanwhile South America and FSU keep adding millions of acres per year.

I Started out to type an intelligent rebuttal to newguys socialist pie in the sky economics, but quickly accepted that it would be futile to argue with someone who believes such nonsense.

[blackpowder]

Uffda.
My son's doc really is from Nigeria lol.