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  • AlbertaFarmer5
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 12670

    Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post
    . However, we respect and support a woman’s right to choose. The state doesn’t have the right to tell you what you can do with your body. Goes for dare I say the Covid shot as well.
    Yet both sides of this debate don't see anything hypocritical about vehemently defending the right to bodily autonomy in one aspect, then demanding the exact opposite on the other issue.


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    • WiltonRanch
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 4551

      Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post

      Yet both sides of this debate don't see anything hypocritical about vehemently defending the right to bodily autonomy in one aspect, then demanding the exact opposite on the other issue.

      Exactly my point. Chucky calls us fake libertarians but he’s just as big of a hypocrite. The Roe vs Wade decision set precedence that the individual had right to bodily autonomy. This didn’t just stop at abortion but every other personal medical and sexual orientation freedoms. It is kind of a catch 22 argument here which shows we can all be hypocrites if we don’t self reflect sometimes. Ideology whether political or religious can blind people from just thinking about things. Sometimes feelings get in the way of thoughts as well.

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      • agstar77
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2001
        • 6351

        Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View Post

        Yet both sides of this debate don't see anything hypocritical about vehemently defending the right to bodily autonomy in one aspect, then demanding the exact opposite on the other issue.

        Two completely different situations.

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        • blackpowder
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 9408

          Possibly up to but not after the point we had passports

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          • cropgrower
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2021
            • 2985

            how about the bodily autonomy of the helpless innocent unborn ? nobody asks them what they would like done with their body's , would they like to have a life of not ? have very mixed thoughts on MAID also

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            • WiltonRanch
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 4551

              Originally posted by agstar77 View Post

              Two completely different situations.
              Bullshit! Complete utter bullshit.

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              • WiltonRanch
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 4551

                Originally posted by cropgrower View Post
                how about the bodily autonomy of the helpless innocent unborn ? nobody asks them what they would like done with their body's , would they like to have a life of not ? have very mixed thoughts on MAID also
                I agree with you on many things but this is where we have to agree to disagree. MAID is messy but I see both sides. Seen enough suicides of people I know and hate the thought but also seen people suffer as they slowly died. Far as abortion if someone is willing to abort an unwanted pregnancy because of their own disregard for the consequences of their actions is it justified the pregnancy is carried to term? I know the religious element and honestly myself hate the thoughts of killing a life I’ve had a hand in creating but I can’t put my values or beliefs upon someone else. It’s messy but it is what it is.

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                • agstar77
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2001
                  • 6351

                  Originally posted by WiltonRanch View Post

                  Bullshit! Complete utter bullshit.
                  That is very intelligent argument. One only affects the subject. The other affects all of society.

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                  • cropgrower
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2021
                    • 2985

                    pure nonsense , it was never even tested to stop transmission

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                    • AlbertaFarmer5
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 12670

                      Originally posted by agstar77 View Post

                      Two completely different situations.
                      Can you explain please.

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