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  • cropgrower
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2021
    • 2985

    #31
    so shud small business also be subsidized because they cant compete with their bigger competitor down the street ?

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    • blackpowder
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 9408

      #32
      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      So are you guys and Pierre Poilivere suggesting farmers not get any more subsidies and that we end supply management?

      I can't wait to hear that from PP. There will be a lot of whining with a plan like that.

      Smaller farms with low income can't compete with large more profitable farms that have access to more capital because of economies of scale.

      If you want stronger rural communities and more farmers, don't subsidize larger farms that don't need it. That only increases the disparity.
      Now look who's pining for the horse and buggy.

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      • chuckChuck
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 13250

        #33
        So you guys want all the subsidies to farmers stopped?

        Or do you think taxpayers should be supporting Monette Farms?
        Last edited by chuckChuck; May 26, 2024, 07:56.

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        • AlbertaFarmer5
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 12651

          #34
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          So you guys want all the subsidies to farmers stopped?
          Yes.
          End supply management too.
          And end all subsidies to all other businesses.
          Just level the playing field.

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          • blackpowder
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 9408

            #35
            U guys are playing a game of silly buggers in black and white while the world is shades of grey.

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            • WiltonRanch
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 4551

              #36
              Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
              So you guys want all the subsidies to farmers stopped?

              Or do you think taxpayers should be supporting Monette Farms?
              Kind of hypocritical to be against government subsidizing other industries which contribute as much or more to the economy than ag, and yet think small to medium sized farms should be subsidized. Or do you just hate big business of any kind and think it should be nationalized? Good commie utopia at the core of every one of your arguments.

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              • Blaithin
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2016
                • 2521

                #37
                I would say that a large number of smaller farms are more profitable than larger farmers.

                Larger farms may have scale and equipment to deal with that scale, but dollars to donuts the bank owns more of it that it does the small farms.

                I also believe new farms are much more flexible to be profitable than a larger farm. Their hurdle is how to get in to farming, once there they have more options.

                You can’t look at the size of a farm and know whether or not it would need subsidized. Many subsidies in other industries are to support employment. Tell me who generally needs more employees, small or large farms.

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                • WiltonRanch
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 4551

                  #38
                  Chuck bemoans oil and gas getting subsidies but it’s ok for renewable energy. I personally have no issues with incentives if dollars put in has a multiplier effect on the economy as a whole. It’s a public good thing like arenas or swimming pools. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Cut all subsidies and incentives to everything, including job training grants, crop insurance top ups and funding to groups like the nfu.

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                  • furrowtickler
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 22515

                    #39
                    There are 4 large family farms around us , 14,000 to near 30,000 ac . They deserve any subsidy the same as us medium and smaller farms .

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                    • furrowtickler
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 22515

                      #40
                      Agree Blathin , there are many “smaller” farms that are very profitable and stable

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