Well said Forage! They are more less pro Russian traitors.
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Your conspiracy theories are trumped up exaggerated rhetoric… Trump was making a point that NATO membership should pay their fair share…. That they themselves agreed to… and not continually count on the US to bail them out. If you make a contact… follow it. Simple law and Trump was in his typical colourful manner… not unusual at all… saying Pay Your Bills NATO membership.
Mindless conspiracy drivelling…
PM Trudeau is doing 10x worse withholding munitions, fixing Russian compressors… failing to send missile defence systems promised… Practically Putin’s lap dog.
CC and Forage… wake up… take off your blinders!!!
Many Blessings! Praying for you!!!
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Originally posted by TOM4CWB View PostYour conspiracy theories are trumped up exaggerated rhetoric… Trump was making a point that NATO membership should pay their fair share…. That they themselves agreed to… and not continually count on the US to bail them out. If you make a contact… follow it. Simple law and Trump was in his typical colourful manner… not unusual at all… saying Pay Your Bills NATO membership.
Mindless conspiracy drivelling…
PM Trudeau is doing 10x worse withholding munitions, fixing Russian compressors… failing to send missile defence systems promised… Practically Putin’s lap dog.
CC and Forage… wake up… take off your blinders!!!
Many Blessings! Praying for you!!!
Cheers
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Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
None of these Posters ever mention how corrupt Putin's Russia is.
He gets a cut of a large part of all economic activities.
There are many examples of what happens if you cross him.
Corruption results in a drain on the economy as it is inefficient as it produces no obvious value.
IMHO what we are seeing now is our economy's are less productive partly due to woke policy and severe regulatory issues that stifle growth.
We used to be much more productive than any corrupt or socialist economy's but now those countries are eating our lunch as we move toward corruption and socialism ourselves.
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"Poland plans to check all grain from Ukraine at the border - Polish services will check all Ukrainian grain transiting through the country to other countries and ports at the border. This was stated by the Deputy Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development of the Republic of Poland Michał Kołodziejczak on February 12, Ukrinform reports. "Today there will be clear instructions that we will check all grain at the border (with Ukraine. - Ed.), which is subject to sealing, subject to export and is only transit grain," M. Kołodziejczak said. The deputy minister explained that this will be done because after this grain is transited to Germany, and it turns out that it is of poor quality “99% of it returns to Poland as European grain." He added that there are also similar cases in ports. "This grain is not returned to Ukraine, but to Poland," the official emphasized. He also noted that he would apply for detailed data on Ukrainian grain that was returned to Poland due to poor quality from Germany and ports. In addition, the Polish government official announced that he would instruct the creation of an information platform, with the help of which Polish farmers will be able to report problems and violations by phone and online directly to the ministry. (APK)"
Are they not looking bad dumping poor quality into EU?
Hurting a supposed ally?
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Fortune estimates Putin to be worth $200 billion.
Putin is a kind of "godfather", on whom the Russian oligarchs depend.
Agriville posters know best though, there's only corruption in Ukraine.
They beleive Putin's made all his money the honest way, not off the backs of the Russian people. Since it's all clean money the Trumpers have no issue with Putin keeping Trump's businesses afloat.
Then there's Tom$4Tom perched atop his bannana box posting this:
"Your conspiracy theories are trumped up exaggerated rhetoric… Trump was making a point that NATO membership should pay their fair share…. That they themselves agreed to… and not continually count on the US to bail them out. If you make a contact… follow it. Simple law and Trump was in his typical colourful manner… not unusual at all… saying Pay Your Bills NATO membership."
Donald Trump of all people preaching to NATO to pay their bills and pay their fair share after he's gone bankrupt SEVEN times and has had to turn to Dictator Putin to bail him out this last time.
But, TOM$4TOM being the sheepie he is, walks around in life with a gunny sack over his head in the dark backing and supporting, the likes of Donald Trump, Dictator Putin and the useful idiot Tucker Carlson.
You have to admire how the Evangelicalists can seperate the good from the evil.
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Forage, I've asked you this before and never received an answer.
Are the citizens of the country currently known as Ukraine any better or worse off under one set of corrupt oligarchs vs the other? Is it worth fighting and dying so that a different set of oligarchs can steal all the wealth? It would be different if they were fighting to overthrow the dictators and oligarchs, but instead they are fighting on their behalf, to keep them in power. I don't see an upside for the common citizen.
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Absolute shame, the $billions$ of missiles rockets shells bullets all blow up something in the Ukraine. Plus 1000's on both sides died. Who will pay to cleanup, rebuild it, demine it? Gaza needs a ceasefire, what about Ukraine?
Plus get back to economic trade sanity, get competition in grain back to normal. Farmers are paying BIG time in lost $$$.Last edited by fjlip; Feb 13, 2024, 11:21.
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Originally posted by AlbertaFarmer5 View PostForage, I've asked you this before and never received an answer.
Are the citizens of the country currently known as Ukraine any better or worse off under one set of corrupt oligarchs vs the other? Is it worth fighting and dying so that a different set of oligarchs can steal all the wealth? It would be different if they were fighting to overthrow the dictators and oligarchs, but instead they are fighting on their behalf, to keep them in power. I don't see an upside for the common citizen.
There were no parades, dancing in the streets, or the Ukrainian government being over thrown by the Ukrainian people.
The Ukrainians I have spoken to here in Canada and there are many, ALL say the same thing, they want Ukraine to be independent of any Putin rule.
They say they love Ukraine and wish they didn't have to have left their democratically elected country.
If you don't like the Ukrainian peoples answer take it up with them, not me.
I do a lot of business in Wpg and see thousands of Ukraine flags flying, and not one Russian. Are all these residents who have sponsored thousands of Ukrainian immigrants not seeing the big picture and only you AB5 turly grasp the situation in Ukraine and know what's best for Ukrainian people and what they really want?
AB5, now let's hear your answer to my question that you've ducked for months upon months, in your opinion which railway, border crossing, and pipeline Blockade didn't cause hardship for Canadian citizens and bussinesses.
Fjlip
I didn't hear you bitching about the effects of war on grain prices in the spring, summer, and fall of 2022. Maybe sent an email to Putin to get the F uck out of Ukraine rather then whining about your petty suffering.Last edited by foragefarmer; Feb 13, 2024, 13:06.
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Talked to a few Ukrainian immigrants and they will tell you corruption definitely exists there but nowhere on the level of Russia. Remember a colour revolution going on pre Crimean invasion which caused corrupt pro Kremlin president to flee in the middle of the night on a chopper for Russia. Some of the reason why Putin rolled in because they weren’t his bitch no longer. This might be conjecture on my part corruption is an insidious cancer which if the top is crooked it spreads through the culture but if you were to look deeper you’d probably find Russian influence contributing a lot to it in Ukraine.
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