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  • shtferbrains
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2017
    • 5167

    #81
    Stole this comment regarding the quick charging from twitter.

    TurboBrick
    14 June, 2023

    621 mile range? 10-80% in 20 minutes? Sounds too good to be true.

    The most efficient EV's on the market require roughly 25-26 kWh per 100 miles of range. Assuming Toyota can match that (unproven), you're looking at a 155 kWh battery, at the very smallest. To charge from 10% to 80% with a 13% average charging loss, you'd have to put in 125 kWh in 20 minutes, which would require the use of a 375kW charger, which does not exist in any meaningful capacity. Even V4 Superchargers are only 250kW.

    Color me doubtful of those claims.


    Chuck's claim of sending 1200km of range down that charging cord in 10 minutes seems like in might involve a grid and infrastructure that isn't even dreamed about.

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    • fjlip
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2002
      • 9775

      #82
      Oh CC and greenies are totally dreaming of pie in sky....same as the VAX is perfectly infallible.
      Watching too many Sci Fi movies, distorted their reality.

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        #83
        Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
        Stole this comment regarding the quick charging from twitter.

        TurboBrick
        14 June, 2023

        621 mile range? 10-80% in 20 minutes? Sounds too good to be true.

        The most efficient EV's on the market require roughly 25-26 kWh per 100 miles of range. Assuming Toyota can match that (unproven), you're looking at a 155 kWh battery, at the very smallest. To charge from 10% to 80% with a 13% average charging loss, you'd have to put in 125 kWh in 20 minutes, which would require the use of a 375kW charger, which does not exist in any meaningful capacity. Even V4 Superchargers are only 250kW.

        Color me doubtful of those claims.


        Chuck's claim of sending 1200km of range down that charging cord in 10 minutes seems like in might involve a grid and infrastructure that isn't even dreamed about.
        Bunch of idiots living in a dream world and completely clueless

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        • Hamloc
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2014
          • 3894

          #84
          Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
          I never said next year. It was Panosonic who said they were working on solid state batteries and partnered with Toyota in 2019 But who cares about the timelines except you, the nit picker from no where who's only argument is, it is too slow! LOL

          Half the cost and twice the range with solid state batteries and EVs will kill any arguments that EVs are not viable or too expensive. The battery is currently the most expensive part of an EV.

          You kept telling us that battery technology wont get better or cheaper. Wrong again according to Toyota.

          Toyota is the largest automaker on the planet and is about to deliver an impressive cheaper better battery in its models in 4 years.

          And you don't like it because it ruins your argument that we need to keep burning fossil fuels in very inefficient ICEs! LOL
          Chuck2, your like talking to Trudeau, it doesn’t matter how many times I ask the question you refuse to answer it. Funny how the left refuses to answer simple questions and then instead deflect on some pie in the sky future miracle. Fml!

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          • Hamloc
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2014
            • 3894

            #85
            Originally posted by fjlip View Post
            And which BATTERIES are the IDIOT libtards throwing $13-15 Billion at? The obsolete in 4 years crap!

            Phuck they are smart !

            Oh ya, today news, VW stopped EV production....eat SHIT Turdo.
            Yes, interesting to see that VW has stopped production at its EV plant in Germany for 6 weeks due to poor demand. What gives Chuck2? What will you deflect to now?!

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            • AlbertaFarmer5
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 12465

              #86
              Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
              Yes, interesting to see that VW has stopped production at its EV plant in Germany for 6 weeks due to poor demand. What gives Chuck2? What will you deflect to now?!
              I'll take a stab at answering this one. It is obviously collusion by the big greedy oil companies using their excess profits to fund a propaganda smear campaign spewing misinformation.
              The aim of which is to convince the poor mislead gullible consumers not to give up their expensive gas guzzling, polluting ice vehicles and exchange them for much more expensive, much less environmentally friendly, much less reliable, and about to be obsolete electric vehicles, for which the supporting infrastructure does not exist even in theory.
              Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Jul 4, 2023, 14:35.

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              • sumdumguy
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 11952

                #87
                Try getting to Regina from just out of White City with one full charge pushing against a 55 km. West Wind.

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                • TSIPP
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 2659

                  #88
                  Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post
                  Try getting to Regina from just out of White City with one full charge pushing against a 55 km. West Wind.
                  Are you serious? Are they that bad? I like the idea of an EV but it’s not for me.

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                  • furrowtickler
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 21844

                    #89
                    Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                    Yes, interesting to see that VW has stopped production at its EV plant in Germany for 6 weeks due to poor demand. What gives Chuck2? What will you deflect to now?!
                    That VW plant in Ontario will be the most expensive white elephant in Canadian history

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                    • AlbertaFarmer5
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 12465

                      #90
                      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                      That VW plant in Ontario will be the most expensive white elephant in Canadian history
                      And that is no small accomplishment. The list of government sponsored white elephant boondoggles , is massive in this country.
                      Possibly exceeded only by the number of liberal scandals.

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