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  • jazz
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2018
    • 9308

    BP to answer your concerns regarding royalties and to quash chucks argument. We have a messed up royalty regime because Canada is a capital starved country. Our retard residents invest in their homes and think that’s the economy.

    So to draw in expertise and skills and equipment to deal without geological lottery as chuck puts it that means keeping taxes and royalties low.

    In another version of this country one where a few don’t try to oppress the productive, Canada would have every resident owning shares in its primary industries.

    But we are too backward for something like that. So in it goes.

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    • Hamloc
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2014
      • 3894

      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
      Taxes collected to pay for roads and other government services are quite different than the excess record windfall profits that the oil companies are profiting from.

      The excess profits are coming directly from consumers and in many cases leaving the country and are invested elsewhere and there are no rebates.

      BC didn't win the geology lottery and didn't have the luck of sitting on billions of barrels of oil on which they could fund their core government services.

      So maybe BC needs to collect more taxes than Alberta? Did you ever think of that? No probably not!

      Saskatchewan has higher fuel taxes than Alberta as well. Is Curly Moe just greedy too? LOL

      The oil sands companies got a great deal with much lower royalties untill their capital costs of building all their mines and facilities were paid for.

      A giant subsidy paid for by taxpayers. But you don't want to talk about that do you?

      You would rather complain about the subsidies to other industries except your own and then tell us that EVs will never work!

      Remember EVs are 80% efficient vs 20% for ICE vehicles.

      Why are we wasting so much energy in inefficient ICE's? So the oil companies can sell us more gasoline at twice the cost of electricity? And pollute the atmosphere which also costs us alot?
      I finally understand how the mind of a socialist works. If a government inflates the price of gasoline 48 cents a litre it is absolutely necessary. If the price of gas is pushed up due to market conditions like supply and demand, well that is price gouging by the oil companies and they should be subject to a windfall tax, which incidentally won’t bring down the price of energy but it is necessary because in Chuck2’s mind every tax is necessary and justified.

      As for EV’s, did you even read the article I posted? Even with $8000 of government subsidies most of the EV’s cost more to run simply because they cost more money to buy and the monthly payments outweighed the lower cost of fuelling the car.

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      • chuckChuck
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2006
        • 12690

        Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
        Hard to see how a slight reduction in CO2 in the lifetime equates to net zero?

        Are you confusing tailpipe emissions with total Co2 emissions?

        Or maybe you are just easily deceived?
        In your graphic if you decarbonize the electricity source for charging EVs the result is 13 tons E. Far less than either hybrids or ICE vehicles.

        Even if you charge with fossil fuel sourced electricity, large scale plants are more efficient than ICE engines so there is a reduction in emissions.

        Canada currently has 60% of its electricity from hydro. Add in a growing share renewables and nuclear in Ontario and the amount of carbon free electricity is very significant.

        Renewables are the cheapest way to generate lots of new electrcity. Storage is becoming a reality in EVs, ammonnia, hydrogen, grid batteries and gas can still used for backup when needed.

        Alberta is leading the way on massive amounts of new renewable generation.

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        • shtferbrains
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2017
          • 5167

          What happened to the net zero targets?

          You are saying we can change the climate with only a small reduction in emissions?

          Looks like a get rich scam with some Fat Cats taking all our money.

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          • cropgrower
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2021
            • 2985

            yes they are so stupid they will be delighted to get a bit of their own money back

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            • sumdumguy
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 11952

              With the ineptitude of this regime, I am sure some people will get multiple cheques, dead people will get cheques, and Quebec for sure will get most of the cheques.

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              • AlbertaFarmer5
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 12466

                Originally posted by Hamloc View Post
                I finally understand how the mind of a socialist works.
                And that is one of the many benefits of not ignoring or blocking the socialists on this site. Even occasionally engaging with them to help them reveal their true colors. We can learn so much about what motivates them, and their end goals. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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                • jazz
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2018
                  • 9308

                  Shouldn’t we take on El Niño and El nina before we worry about climate change. I mean these are 2 well documented and studied phenomena going back 150yrs.

                  If chuck could tell us exactly how much carbon tax will stop these I might be on board.

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                  • furrowtickler
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 21846

                    Originally posted by jazz View Post
                    Shouldn’t we take on El Niño and El nina before we worry about climate change. I mean these are 2 well documented and studied phenomena going back 150yrs.

                    If chuck could tell us exactly how much carbon tax will stop these I might be on board.
                    Yup , add solar cycles , magnetic pole shifting and many other natural phenomena that are cyclical throughout the millennia.

                    No doubt pollution in general has done massive harm to some environments and local ecosystems around the world , that’s a huge problem especially in third world countries.
                    But pinning the blame of climate change solely on carbon and the exaggeration to guilt all into a hugely economic destructive carbon tax that is decimating the middle class as we speak is not going to change anything as far as climate change

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                    • Blaithin
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 2511

                      Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
                      In your graphic if you decarbonize the electricity source for charging EVs the result is 13 tons E. Far less than either hybrids or ICE vehicles.

                      Even if you charge with fossil fuel sourced electricity, large scale plants are more efficient than ICE engines so there is a reduction in emissions.

                      Canada currently has 60% of its electricity from hydro. Add in a growing share renewables and nuclear in Ontario and the amount of carbon free electricity is very significant.

                      Renewables are the cheapest way to generate lots of new electrcity. Storage is becoming a reality in EVs, ammonnia, hydrogen, grid batteries and gas can still used for backup when needed.

                      Alberta is leading the way on massive amounts of new renewable generation.
                      If you start discussing nuclear as a solid O&G replacement, I'll take you seriously. Even better if you put some research into Thorium.

                      But as long as you keep saying that second bold bit, you're not terribly believable.

                      You think renewables are the cheapest? And they are less carbonized?

                      If renewables, specifically wind and solar, were cheap, they wouldn't need gov subsidies and grants to get companies and private people to use them.

                      I'd also invite you out to see a current wind project being built and the site of a proposed solar farm and you tell me if you think they're not a large ecological impact and that they aren't using much carbon. Keeping in mind everything on the planet is made up of carbon so it's physically impossible to decarbonize anything. There will always be carbon invovled.

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