Electric.

[chuckChuck]

But you still don't want to acknowledge that the oil industry in Alberta has been and still is a recipient of subsidies, incentives, and government help? LOL

[cropgrower]

But you still don't want to acknowledge that the oil industry in Alberta has been and still is a recipient of subsidies, incentives, and government help? LOL

The government gets a huge amount back in tax on fuel etc , any subsidies would have been a great investment , lots of good paying jobs as well as the tax , only problem is how that tax money gets then wasted by the clowns in ottawa

[chuckChuck]

So subsidies to the oil industry are a good investment that creates jobs and economic activity but the subsidies to EVs and battery manufacturing are not, even though they do the same thing? LOL

[cropgrower]

Battreys just store energy , not make energy , EV is pointless unless you charge it off a wind turbine or solar pannel , just make a clueless person think they are saving the plannet

[chuckChuck]

Battreys just store energy , not make energy , EV is pointless unless you charge it off a wind turbine or solar pannel , just make a clueless person think they are saving the plannet

Crop, EVs are about 80% efficient compared to about 20% for ICE vehicles.

Even charged with fossil fuels EVs are still more efficient than ICEs at putting energy to work and reducing emissions.

And Canada has 60% of its electricity from hydro. And is building a lot of renewables and planning for more nuclear. All low carbon options.

Try again! LOL

[cropgrower]

just a fairy tale in the minds of dreamers at this point in time , come back in mabe 10 years and have a look at it again

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Since Chuck is having a bad day anyways...
I thought we were replacing reliable electricity generation with unreliable wind and solar because the former were causing drought and climate change, and the wind and solar were going to return earth's weather back to the panacea we enjoyed before climate change started. New peer reviewed literature suggests that it is actually the latter that are causing droughts.

As a conclusion, it can be said that it is certain that wind farms change the local climate. Very large wind farms or many wind farms also have an effect on the global climate. The results are mostly based on simulation models, whereby the study by Zhou et al. (2013), which was able to draw on comparative data, confirms the results found in the simulation models. The new study by Wang et al. (2023), which we discussed today, confirms the model calculations using real data obtained from a Chinese wind farm and shows for the first time that soil moisture is reduced by wind farms not only downwind but also upwind.

Wind farms thus contribute significantly to the drying out of soils, and to drought

But it is based mostly on simulations models, so it is probably nothing.

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/05/07/manmade-studies-suggest-that-wind-parks-cause-climate-change-even-regional-drought/

[shtferbrains]

California is making the most use of that free sun and wind.

Comparisons of their rates by percent increase and actual values.


California may be the most suitable place in the world for renewables.
Very predictable moderate weather in the high population areas.
No extreme spikes in demand for air con or heat.
Rooftop residential produces predictably yead round.
Cheap BLM land near the population areas for near unlimited unopposed expansion.

Yet they still have the above economic issues that are predicted to get worse.

How can that be expected to work here under out extreme conditions?

[sumdumguy]

Look at Hawaii, that’s why we noticed almost every residential roof in Maui was practically covered by solar panels.

[jazz]

Almost $175B in resource projects cancelled on Trudeaus watch. Imagine where the countrys GDP would be today.

Some real dumbasses in the country to vote for this 2 times.