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  • TOM4CWB
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    Not my opinion… the Great designer and Creator of : the Universe, Time, all Matters…. Declares:






    Your life… Your choice… what we sow… we will reap.

    Blessings and Prayers

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  • jazz
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    Originally posted by cropgrower View Post
    far better to loose than to march on down the road to hell , at this stage what can cons do even if they win ? canada has been destroyed , how can they even start to fix the problems ?
    You are right on target CR. At this point PP needs to just deliver a very weak minority for Trudeau and let him ride the country into the abyss.

    There is no fixing this.

    Our energy is much better enacting our own personal and financial sovereignty acts.

    The minute the NDPLib coup happens, we are booking our CGE. No more fcking around.
    Last edited by jazz; Jun 25, 2023, 15:10.

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  • AlbertaFarmer5
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    Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
    Furthermore.
    Do we diminish our rights by identifying separate multitudes of citizen? I'm afraid that horse left the barn long ago.
    All animals are equal. Some animals are more equal than others.
    Almost scary how accurate many of the predictions in animal Farm and 1984 turned out to be.
    It seems certain segments of society consider those books to be instruction manuals, rather than as an early warning system.

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  • AlbertaFarmer5
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    Maybe recognition of rights comes through earning them
    I couldn't agree more. Although I'm not quite sure what that looks like in the context of the current discussion.
    Perhaps the same as any other group. Be a productive member of society.
    Don't push your beliefs on anyone else.
    Follow the same public societal norms that the silent majority have implicitly concluded are necessary to have a civil functioning society.
    Does that sound reasonable?

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  • blackpowder
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    Furthermore.
    Do we diminish our rights by identifying separate multitudes of citizen? I'm afraid that horse left the barn long ago.

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  • blackpowder
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    I agree that every grass roots conservative push brings out discussions of evolution, creation, abortion and the definition of family. Essentially killing the movement every time.

    The word rights is perhaps over used.
    Who gets to determine what they are?
    Instead of turning to the Charter, we determine for our own selves what they mean, looking for any reason to start a ruckus to cover up our negative feelings of self.
    Every citizen has the right to be transgender or Christian or Indian. And to the same rights of expression and association. Our Charter should include the word pursue but it doesn't.
    Is the current trend the same as desegregation? I cannot change the color of my skin back and forth during puberty.
    Teaching tolerance and exposure to diversity is a good thing. It takes generations for societal norms to change.

    The size of the marginalized groups is getting smaller in proportion to the ruckus they are creating over rights that they already have. I do not parade my ethnicity or social status in the ghetto after dark. I would change nothing but my health.
    The message is getting lost in the inevitable fighting. The right to sexual orientation for adults exists. As does the right of a child to desire becoming a fireman or an astronaut. The right of parents to push back against well meaning but wrong headed messages to children does as well.
    Perhaps most genders believe the same thing. Maybe the discussion has been commandeered by insecure individuals as in all other change movements. And every time, the systems of government exacerbate the situation by trying to look righteous to all.
    Maybe recognition of rights comes through earning them. Parents need to teach some things not rely on others.
    Self interest groups can earn through judicious choices.
    I have not read any of MLKs work.
    It takes generations to change.
    I wonder how he would navigate this discussion.

    What is disconcerting in the longer view, and partially related. The movement to eliminate separate school boards.
    Church congregations vote in or out pastors thereby choosing the message they hear. Having all schools give the choice of message to the government, is a relinquishment of aforementioned rights and responsibilities.

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  • AlbertaFarmer5
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    Originally posted by agstar77 View Post
    Really, there was case not long ago of a child molester at a Hutterian colony, an elder. So I guess they are not that smart. Lifestyle or beliefs do not protect children from abusers. In a closed society like theirs a lot of things are hushed up. Being religious does not always translate to having good morals.
    This really shouldn't be such a complicated or controversial topic. We all could just say I condemn all abuse of all children by all people regardless of political affiliation.
    There was really no need to jump through hoops to try to justify abuse by comparing it to other abuses.

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  • TSIPP
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    Originally posted by TSIPP View Post
    Almost 70 thousand views
    85 retweets
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    Looks like the fruit loops have some major support, that’s sarcasm in a big way.
    What’s wrong with fruit loops? It’s way nicer than inbred banjo pickers!

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  • cropgrower
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    far better to loose than to march on down the road to hell , at this stage what can cons do even if they win ? canada has been destroyed , how can they even start to fix the problems ?

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  • chuckChuck
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    And there you go with another bigoted statement. Some of you guys just can't help yourselves from stepping in the dog crap again and again.

    Don't rely on Melissa Lantsman's Conservative Party twitter feed for a measure of support for Pride month.

    Because the support that matters for Melissa Lantsmann comes right from the supreme leader himself Pierre P. and other LGBQT members of the caucus.

    Wake up because the CPC leadership supports the rights of LGBQT people.

    And if they ever stop supporting the rights of LGBQT people they will join Maxime Bernier and the PPC in single digit support.

    I can't wait to see how Polly manages the the rising transphobia and LGBQT hate in his ranks while keeping the party intact. Dead silence seems not to be working.

    Get your popcorn ready its going to be a cage match with everyone in the CPC coming out a loser! LOL
    Last edited by chuckChuck; Jun 25, 2023, 10:04.

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