wokeness

[jazz]

in fact blaming people for something they did not do like you are doing CC makes folk more resentfull to the whole cause , so use your brain before you do more harm

Maybe chuck can tell us if our recent batch of immigrants bear any blame in this as well, or is it only settlers.

By my calculation, liberal lefty houses are also built on claimed native land.

So when will the apologies from those groups start flowing. I dont see chinese and indian immigrants wearing too many orange shirts unless they are NDP supporters.

[chuckChuck]

I am not personally blaming anyone for what happened in the past unless they were one of the abusers or furthering racists views.

Governments and churches are the ones that should take responsibility for harm done and the systemic problems, which is work in progress.

And of course all settler families, their descendants, the larger Canadian community, and more recent immigrants all have benefited from colonization. Some more than others.

But that doesn't mean we should ignore the results of past policies and harms done. Or deny the abuse or cultural genocide. Or deny the present day problems including lingering racism and intolerance.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

And of course all settler families, their descendants, the larger Canadian community, and more recent immigrants all have benefited from colonization. Some more than others.

Would you say that first Nations themselves have derived any benefits from colonization, or is this strictly a one-way Street?
Do healthcare and social programs and technology and the virtual elimination of famine the end of tribal warfare, guns, horses, automobiles, heated homes, education, law enforcement, Justice system, human rights, etc belong in the benefits column or the victims of colonization column?

One way to look at this is if the colonizers handed over the keys tomorrow and walked away, how many of these technologies and institutions would the first Nations immediately give up to return to the good old days?

Another thought, since the nfu which you are a member of is a strong advocate for the land back movement, assume we go through with that and return all the land to the tribes to whom it rightfully belonged to before the white man took it away, do you think there would be any disagreement amongst the various tribes as to who had the hereditary rights to what portion of canada? Or there were never any historical disputes over territory, their own intertribal legal system spelled out exactly what territory belonged to who? There have never been any wars over territory, the tribal distribution the day the white man came was set in stone since the beginning of time? The land back process would not result in any legal disagreements or civil war amongst or within tribes? Really think about the implications of that question.

[fjlip]

Been said before, colonizers brought First Nations out of the Stone Age. No wheel, no horse, no written language. Guaranteed not a single one would go back to pre European civilization.

We all benefited, agree , it’s a wash. Nobody owes anyone.

[furrowtickler]

There has been billions and billions paid out , when is enough, enough ??

[TOM4CWB]

Feeding the T R O L L…

This is entertaining to CC…

Blessings and Prayers

[jazz]

Would you say that first Nations themselves have derived any benefits from colonization, or is this strictly a one-way Street?.

A 10,000 year upgrade. You re welcome.

Those 4x4 trucks didnt spring from the ground.

[cropgrower]

I am not personally blaming anyone for what happened in the past unless they were one of the abusers or furthering racists views.

Governments and churches are the ones that should take responsibility for harm done and the systemic problems, which is work in progress.

And of course all settler families, their descendants, the larger Canadian community, and more recent immigrants all have benefited from colonization. Some more than others.

But that doesn't mean we should ignore the results of past policies and harms done. Or deny the abuse or cultural genocide. Or deny the present day problems including lingering racism and intolerance.

what a relief that is too know im not to blame !

[furrowtickler]

A 10,000 year upgrade. You re welcome.

Those 4x4 trucks didnt spring from the ground.

And guns to rob innocent tax payers
Neighbour got broke into this morning, again , his shop looted , thousands of dollars stolen , again , all caught on camera , all 3 First Nations
One was identified as the same one from 4 years ago . Got caught and let out 2 months later .
They on the run again , but they got truck , license plates and all facial on camera .
Cops knew right away . This has been rampant in area this past 10 days again .

[furrowtickler]

So go ahead woke crowd , take our guns . Leave us all vulnerable to those criminals who will keep their guns . I pray for your kids and grandchildren, you , I , may be next . It was 1/4 mile from my place . DYODD .
All it will take is a few minutes, no police enforcement will save you or your family in time , ever . These gangs will not care who our what you are .

[AlbertaFarmer5]

Gosh my info was crap then. Even so chuckles is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill and in the process has contradicted himself for decades. Pompous twat.

Since when is this type of humble response to being called out on making a mistake allowed on Agriville? You mean it is now acceptable to publicly show humility, acknowledge you were wrong, and admit that the information was wrong?
I thought the only appropriate response when someone points out that you are spreading misinformation was to attack the poster who pointed out the mistake, accuse them of being a flat earther, then hurl insults and childish names with excessive bluster and bravado then quickly try to change the subject without ever acknowledging their mistake.
I like your way better.

[chuckChuck]

If anything is in the stoneage it's the thinking from the usual suspect on Agrisilly who can't help themselves from spewing more intolerance and a lack of understanding or sympathy towards the plight of first nations.

Just like on the issues around the LGBQT community and other minorities who are discriminated against. They are the ones causing all the problems?

The CPC and Crypto Polly are way too progressive on most of these issue and if he gets elected you will still be complaining about how bad you have it! LOL

[biglentil]

If anything is in the stoneage it's the thinking from the usual suspect on Agrisilly who can't help themselves from spewing more intolerance and a lack of understanding or sympathy towards the plight of first nations.

Just like on the issues around the LGBQT community and other minorities who are discriminated against. They are the ones causing all the problems?

The CPC and Crypto Polly are way too progressive on most of these issue and if he gets elected you will still be complaining about how bad you have it! LOL

What rights are limited of those minorities you speak of? Where was the tolerance of the left for the unvaxxed when their rights and freedoms actually were limited? Fricken hypocrites.

[sumdumguy]

You hit the nail on the head BL. Left-Wing Lunatics don’t know what hypocrisy is.

[Guest]

If anything is in the stoneage it's the thinking from the usual suspect on Agrisilly who can't help themselves from spewing more intolerance and a lack of understanding or sympathy towards the plight of first nations.

Just like on the issues around the LGBQT community and other minorities who are discriminated against. They are the ones causing all the problems?

The CPC and Crypto Polly are way too progressive on most of these issue and if he gets elected you will still be complaining about how bad you have it! LOL

Grow up FFS