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  • jazz
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2018
    • 9308

    Originally posted by newguy View Post
    your cheerleader for a criminal like Putin is disturbing.
    You are just still asleep at the wheel. Once you wake up, you will see what this world really is.

    Until then....

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    • newguy
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 2145

      Originally posted by jazz View Post
      You are just still asleep at the wheel. Once you wake up, you will see what this world really is.

      Until then....
      Sounds like those that followed Charles Manson.History shows they were brain washed by an insane criminal.

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      • AlbertaFarmer5
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 12565

        Originally posted by TSIPP View Post
        So the Deep state scumbags are the good guys?
        I have commented on this before. But it seems that those ideologues on the extreme left always believe that there are good guys and bad guys. Black and white, right and wrong. No shades of gray. They never consider that they could all be bad guys, or that all options could be wrong.
        Life would be so much simpler if only it actually worked that way.

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        • shtferbrains
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2017
          • 5266

          Looks like Putin has firmly established who is running the country and what happens if anyone challenges him.

          As he always does.

          Wagner were the heroes of the homeland but things change quickly in Russia.
          Kind of similar to when Stalin took Trotsky out in the great purge.

          Maybe the "Deep State" is responsible?

          Maybe they know what happened to Surovikin too?

          Russia never changes.

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          • furrowtickler
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2004
            • 22056

            Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
            Looks like Putin has firmly established who is running the country and what happens if anyone challenges him.

            As he always does.

            Wagner were the heroes of the homeland but things change quickly in Russia.
            Kind of similar to when Stalin took Trotsky out in the great purge.

            Maybe the "Deep State" is responsible?

            Maybe they know what happened to Surovikin too?

            Russia never changes.
            Trudeau doing the same thing in a full democratic society, through censorship of media , seriously no difference. If you stand up to the people in power, you get erased …. Welcome to tyranny, just slightly different manner

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            • WiltonRanch
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 4517

              Conspiracy theory maybe the Cook wasn’t on the plane.

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              • AlbertaFarmer5
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 12565

                I haven't looked into this at all.
                But what I know about Prigozhin (spelling) is that he was a big business man. Not a military man, not a politician. And it is all too common for big businessmen in the FSU to fall out of windows. And it is their competition and the mafia who are responsible. That is how business is done in the FSU. That is where I would bet my money. No conspiracies required.

                This could explain why he was so desperate to keep his business venture ( Wagner) going, he had monetary obligations to much bigger fish, and if he didn't meet those obligations, he was going to go swimming with the fishes.

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                • sumdumguy
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 12010

                  Trudeau is sad that Zelensky is not invited to G20 conference, Trudeau says he will advance Ukraine’s issues at the meetings. That shou,d be effective. 😂

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                  • shtferbrains
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2017
                    • 5266

                    I also follow Tyler Durden at ZeroHedge.

                    I don't think he would appreciate you using quotes from Russian trolls in the comments section indicating they were part of his opinion of the current situation in Ukraine.

                    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/failed-counter-offensive-ukraine-losing-because-foreign-fighters-are-walking-away

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                    • beaverdam
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2018
                      • 1451

                      Zelensky Sacks Six Deputy Defence Ministers Amid Mounting Corruption Scandals (Sept 18th)

                      Six Ukrainian deputy defense ministers were fired following the dismissal of Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov in a corruption scandal.

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