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  • foragefarmer
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 3481

    #21
    [QUOTE=sumdumguy;559918]
    Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
    GoalieGuy

    Some of you should keep this in mind as GoalieGuy stated with Fentanyl it only takes one pill one time and your hooked. That's how powerful it is.

    Enlighten me - people are prescribed fentanyl. Are all of them drug addicts?
    Read this and maybe it will educate you and the others who think they wrote the book on parenting and need to give the rest of us a lecture on it.

    " It is also used recreationally, sometimes mixed with heroin, cocaine, benzodiazepines or methamphetamine. An overdose of it can be neutralized by naloxone."

    "Fentanyl works by activating mu-opioid receptors. It is around 100 times stronger than morphine and about 50 times stronger than heroin."

    Real easy for those who live in a bubble world to criticize and condemn with no consideration for others who are living with addictions of any kind. They are not all bad people.

    I always thought Christians were suppose to be compassionate, I guess only when convenient.

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    • jazz
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2018
      • 9308

      #22
      [QUOTE=sumdumguy;559918]
      Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
      Enlighten me - people are prescribed fentanyl. Are all of them drug addicts?
      Exactly, father in law had fentanyl in the hospital 4 times in a month and never got hooked.

      Its not about the drugs. You cna get hooked on anything even antifreeze. Its about the conditions these people face, hopelessness, despair, financial ruin. All things our scumbag PM pushes every day on this country.

      $200T in resources sitting in the ground and we are broke(n).

      Should be living high on the hog like Norway, instead we piss it all away on stupidity.

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      • Sheepwheat
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2017
        • 3137

        #23
        [QUOTE=foragefarmer;559926]
        Originally posted by sumdumguy View Post



        I always thought Christians were suppose to be compassionate, I guess only when convenient.
        What does parenting and avoidance of the problem of drugs in the first place have to do with compassion? I put up $1100 for an acquaintance to go to teen challenge for a year, to get the help they need to overcome.

        I guess that’s not compassionate? Oh right, it’s a Christian organization. Scary stuff. Encouraging people to reboot their lives and get back on track. Scary stuff.

        What have you given towards your local addicts? I hope something? I think it is one of the biggest issues of our day. We need to lift these people out of their struggles and set them back on the right track. Do you agree?

        So let’s keep the drugs flowing to them in a “safe” manner. That ought to do it.

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        • chuckChuck
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2006
          • 12690

          #24
          That is exactly what harm reduction, safe injection, safe supply and treatment programs are trying to to do. To save lives and to improve peoples lives.

          Criminalizing substance abusers doesn't help if they don't have access to help and treatment programs and it can't be solved with just voluntary donations of those willing to help their neighbors and friends.

          The scale of the problems demand governments at all levels to take serious actions and put sufficient treatment programs in place.

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          • Sheepwheat
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2017
            • 3137

            #25
            Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
            That is exactly what harm reduction, safe injection, safe supply and treatment programs are trying to to do. To save lives and to improve peoples lives.

            Criminalizing substance abusers doesn't help if they don't have access to help and treatment programs and it can't be solved with just voluntary donations of those willing to help their neighbors and friends.

            The scale of the problems demand governments at all levels to take serious actions and put sufficient treatment programs in place.
            Actually it could be solved if ppl put their money where their mouth is. If all farmers in sask each gave 1100 bucks….

            Criminalizing abusers? How about removing the pushers from society? Cut the source off. Like try.

            Next time teen challenge is in a church in your community, you should go and see. It’s amazing the stories these fine folks tell. The life change is absolutely incredible...

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            • jazz
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2018
              • 9308

              #26
              Sheep when I was working in the corp world, our company had some sort of annual cash drive from employees to help abused women. We gladly donated for yrs until we had a presentation from one of the sponsor groups.

              It was revealed that on average, these women take 8-10 tries before they can successfully leave and find safe harbour.

              Imagine how many tries it takes to get a drug addict off. Lot of cash being flushed down as a solution to this.

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              • jazz
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2018
                • 9308

                #27
                Get ready for your next level drug crisis.

                Lets get some more safe injection sites going, thats clearly the answer to this.

                Horse paste bad, horse tranquilizer good



                Last edited by jazz; Feb 25, 2023, 20:16.

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                • shtferbrains
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 5167

                  #28
                  Rompun for vet use.
                  Never used it or seen it here.
                  Commonly used in the US in dart guns to sedate stock in pastures to enable doctoring animals where it is impractical or inconvenient to catch them.
                  Probably impossible for a rancher to buy here but used to be over the counter south of the border.

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                  • WiltonRanch
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 4512

                    #29
                    Originally posted by shtferbrains View Post
                    Rompun for vet use.
                    Never used it or seen it here.
                    Commonly used in the US in dart guns to sedate stock in pastures to enable doctoring animals where it is impractical or inconvenient to catch them.
                    Probably impossible for a rancher to buy here but used to be over the counter south of the border.
                    Romp you’d need a damn good reason for the vet would give you a shot let alone a bottle. Torbo on the other hand is restricted af. Even Ace is getting hard to buy to have on hand.

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                    • blackpowder
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 9231

                      #30
                      Wow. I remember in the 90s the old country vet gave me some Rompun for darting a wild cow cause I can't rope.
                      The lecture he gave me I'll never forget. He said dosage species specific and one drop potentially deadly to human.
                      Can't imagine mixing with Fentanyl.
                      Is the propensity for self destruction so ingrained we will always have an addiction/death issue?

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